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  1. #11
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    Default Re: HB 1718 Increased Penalties for unlicensed carry

    This sounds like the same illogical rationale of needing more immigration laws because the authorities choose to disregard the current laws.

  2. #12
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    Default Re: HB 1718 Increased Penalties for unlicensed carry

    how about a law increasing penalties for rioting and looting???
    Let's go Brandon!!!

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    Default Re: HB 1718 Increased Penalties for unlicensed carry

    Hold on, hold on, they*re gonna create another law that nobody is going to go to jail for just like all those straw purchase arrests. Bunch of dumbasses wasting space and taking up oxygen in HARRISBURG.

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    Default Re: HB 1718 Increased Penalties for unlicensed carry

    Yet they (Dems) are trying to eliminate the mandatory sentencing enhancements for possession of firearms during commission of violent crimes!

    'Anti-Racism Sentencing Reform Act': Proposed law in California would drastically reduce penalties for violent gun crimes
    In what has been called an effort to curb disproportionate law enforcement for communities of color, a bill is making its way through the CA state assembly that would drastically reduce the length of sentences for gun-related crimes.


    "In essence, the bill decriminalizes the use of a firearm in California for the most severe, most violent felonies. What this bill would do is encourage violent criminals to use guns during their crime because the penalty is so insignificant," said Eric Siddall, VP of the Association of Deputy District Attorneys (ADDA) of LA County.
    I don't speak English , I talk American!

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    Default Re: HB 1718 Increased Penalties for unlicensed carry

    Quote Originally Posted by bigandy1966 View Post
    On one hand if it gets the thug culture practitioners of the mexican carry off the streets so much the better, but on the other hand if PA goes constitutional carry this would be irrelevant unless the detainee were a prohibited person, in that case there would need to be anew law definingthe stricter penalties
    Quote Originally Posted by PocketProtector View Post
    Never the intent.
    Even IF the intent was as bigandy says, LE can't just randomly stop someone to check for a license. Yet. Any 'thug' will conceal. They're at least not dumb enough to OC.

    Quote Originally Posted by archie19 View Post
    how about a law increasing penalties for rioting and looting???
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    Default Re: HB 1718 Increased Penalties for unlicensed carry

    Quote Originally Posted by esh21167 View Post
    Even IF the intent was as bigandy says, LE can't just randomly stop someone to check for a license. Yet. Any 'thug' will conceal. They're at least not dumb enough to OC.
    Oh really? Remember the prohibited punk in Philly riding the ATV thru the streets with a SMG-style pistol strapped to the front.

    And they most certainly can , will and do still stop suspicious-looking people with a visible firearm. The case will get thrown out , , but the guns will be confiscated and not returned to any prohibited persons. Another bad gun off the streets!
    Last edited by abner13; July 9th, 2021 at 11:56 AM.
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    Default Re: HB 1718 Increased Penalties for unlicensed carry

    I read the bill

    https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs...type=B&bn=1718

    It looks like it increases penalties for second offenses. As of the writing of this post it only has democrat sponsors.

    In my opinion if the bill passed it's not likely to harm anyone with a valid LTCF. However if it does pass it is probably to give the anti gun crowd a boost in morale because they got a gun control law through the GOP state legislature. Therefore they will build on it.
    The only way I would support is if it was attached to a constitutional carry bill. One that increased the penalty for carrying with certain serious crimes on ones' record and at the same time remove the requirement for a LTCF to carry.

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    Default Re: HB 1718 Increased Penalties for unlicensed carry

    Quote Originally Posted by ett View Post
    In my opinion; the whole concept of "prohibited person" is a bunch of BS.
    If a person is a danger to society; then they belong behind bars. Otherwise they should have all their Rights.
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    Default Re: HB 1718 Increased Penalties for unlicensed carry

    Quote Originally Posted by dev View Post
    I am a believer in Constitutional Carry. Any increase in penalty for carrying without a license is a step backwards in my eyes. Increasing the penalty for carrying without a license is Unconstitutional in my opinion.
    Amen!
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