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  1. #21
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    Default Re: Carrying Long Guns in a Vehicle During Government Declarations

    Quote Originally Posted by 584_Mini View Post
    You're a little late to the A.R.P.
    Do you have your LTCF?
    Let's not forget there are still species of tropical penguins living in the Galapagos.

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    Default Re: Carrying Long Guns in a Vehicle During Government Declarations

    Quote Originally Posted by donotknowme View Post
    Do you have your LTCF?
    No.

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    Default Re: Carrying Long Guns in a Vehicle During Government Declarations

    Quote Originally Posted by gnbrotz View Post
    The amendment now limits any order to 21 days max. It cannot be extended without legislative agreement.
    Just want to provide an update from my end. I emailed PEMA to see what their interpretation is. They just responded today. Here is what I wrote, and their response:

    Hello. My understanding is that all Governor Disaster/Emergency Proclamations now have a 21-day expiration unless approved for extension by the General Assembly. However, on the PEMA web page (https://www.pema.pa.gov/Governor-Pro...s/default.aspx), it shows that of the two proclamations that were issued or renewed by the Governor within the past 90-days, only the 5/20/21 COVID proclamation was terminated by concurrent resolution of the General Assembly. The 5/7/21 Opioid one was not updated on the PEMA website to show that it was also terminated. Are we currently under any Disaster/Emergency Proclamations, or have they all been ended? Thank you.

    Good afternoon,
    The Governor renewed the Opioid declaration on May 7, 2021. It is still active and will expire by operation of law on August 5, 2021.
    Thank you,
    Kira

  4. #24
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    Default Re: Carrying Long Guns in a Vehicle During Government Declarations

    I wish people would stop about the SYMBOLIC opioid state of declaration. It is SYMBOLIC and not an actual state of emergency where they declare martial law.

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    Default Re: Carrying Long Guns in a Vehicle During Government Declarations

    Quote Originally Posted by Delkal View Post
    I wish people would stop about the SYMBOLIC opioid state of declaration. It is SYMBOLIC and not an actual state of emergency where they declare martial law.
    My only concern and the point of the post is the actual enforcement of § 6107.

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    Default Re: Carrying Long Guns in a Vehicle During Government Declarations

    Quote Originally Posted by 584_Mini View Post
    My only concern and the point of the post is the actual enforcement of § 6107.
    I would never tell anyone to disregard a law.......but non lawyers making up laws on technicalities is another issue. No one knows about the enforcement of § 6107 because it never happened.

    I have a LTCF so this doesn't apply to me anyway. But it seems like if anyone is concerned it would be easier (and cheaper than getting a lawyer) just to just get a LTCF for $20. Or wait 2 months.

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    Default Re: Carrying Long Guns in a Vehicle During Government Declarations

    Quote Originally Posted by gnbrotz View Post
    You're wrong.

    While LTCFs typically are not connected to long arms, during a state of emergency, a license is required to possess ANY device that goes bang on public streets or property. The definition of "firearm" is different for §6107 (Prohibited conduct during an emergency) than it is for most of the other statutes, where it is basically limited to handguns (or SBR/SBS)

    https://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/L...1.007.000..HTM
    GNBrotz is correct, and his post illustrates why AR15 pistols (and similar) are especially useful in Pa because of the peculiarity of Pa law.

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    Default Re: Carrying Long Guns in a Vehicle During Government Declarations

    I'm sure you have your reasons, but it does make one wonder why you just don't get a LTCF and be done with all this fuckery.
    "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it." — Thomas Paine

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    Default Re: Carrying Long Guns in a Vehicle During Government Declarations

    Quote Originally Posted by ATBackpackin View Post
    I'm sure you have your reasons, but it does make one wonder why you just don't get a LTCF and be done with all this fuckery.
    Maybe he just thinks it's a ridiculous notion that on one day certain things require a license, and on very next day, every single thing with every type of firearm requires a license, and that status can continue perpetually, and he doesn't want to play along.

    If I hadn't garnered such notoriety in my local area, I may well have decided to forego licensing myself. As it is, I push any boundary I can and refuse to produce a license when it's not required.
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    Default Re: Carrying Long Guns in a Vehicle During Government Declarations

    Quote Originally Posted by V300 View Post
    GNBrotz is correct, and his post illustrates why AR15 pistols (and similar) are especially useful in Pa because of the peculiarity of Pa law.
    I agree.

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