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  1. #11
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    Default Re: CCW Proof of Residency Validity

    Quote Originally Posted by PAMedic=F|A= View Post
    Fill out the application. Turn it in.

    Attach your government ID.

    Call it even. Take screen shots.

    If you have problem, get a lawyer.
    PA LTCF are issued by the County. It is supposed to be your county of residence. Granted, some counties are quicker than others.

    What is there to stop a Philadelphia resident from applying for a LTCF by changing their DL to a more advantageous County by using a family member or friends address ? There is a reason proof of residency, other than a government ID is required.

  2. #12
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    Default Re: CCW Proof of Residency Validity

    Quote Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter View Post
    A driver's license is all any of us are using. If you lived out of state but had a second residence in PA, that's where the bills come into play.
    Okay, excellent. Thanks for the clarification.

  3. #13
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    Default Re: CCW Proof of Residency Validity

    Quote Originally Posted by Selviorn View Post
    So as of right now I'm still living at home with family (Thanks pandemic) and as such I don't receive any bills in the mail to use as proof of residency. Now I can't imagine any way in hell I'm the only person who lives at home still who's ever tried to apply for their CCW permit, so does anyone know what else is acceptable in Bucks County? Their signup online specifically only mentions bills addressed to myself.

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    Isn't a drivers license good enough?

  4. #14
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    Default Re: CCW Proof of Residency Validity

    How about your auto insurance card.
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  5. #15
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    Default Re: CCW Proof of Residency Validity

    Update: As my license renewal was issued less than six months ago they are requiring these proofs of residency. As per email:
    "Your License to Carry application has been withdrawn.

    Application withdrawn due to lack of "proof of residency" requirements. Due to your current license/ID being within 6 months of its issue date you will need to upload 2 of the following. These are the ONLY accepted documents per the state.

    - Mortgage Statement
    - Lease Agreement
    - Water
    - Sewer
    - Gas
    - Electric
    - Cable
    - Internet
    - House Phone or Cell Phone


    Your application fees will be refunded."

    Frustrating but understandable precaution.

  6. #16
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    Default Re: CCW Proof of Residency Validity

    Wait a minute...They're telling you that because you just renewed your existing license that now you have to do this other shit? I was under the impression that all you needed was a PA DL and you were good to go. This is the first I'm hearing anything on a hold of any sort for 6 months. I guess I need some learning up.
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  7. #17
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    Default Re: CCW Proof of Residency Validity

    Quote Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter View Post
    A driver's license is all any of us are using. If you lived out of state but had a second residence in PA, that's where the bills come into play.
    When I moved into bucks, I had the change of address for my DL and brought my new cable and electric bills along. they did look at hem because of the change form

  8. #18
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    Default Re: CCW Proof of Residency Validity

    (c) Form of application and content.--The application for a license to carry a firearm shall be uniform throughout this Commonwealth and shall be on a form prescribed by the Pennsylvania State Police. The form may contain provisions, not exceeding one page, to assure compliance with this section. Issuing authorities shall use only the application form prescribed by the Pennsylvania State Police.

  9. #19
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    Default Re: CCW Proof of Residency Validity

    Quote Originally Posted by Carson View Post
    PA LTCF are issued by the County. It is supposed to be your county of residence. Granted, some counties are quicker than others.

    What is there to stop a Philadelphia resident from applying for a LTCF by changing their DL to a more advantageous County by using a family member or friends address ? There is a reason proof of residency, other than a government ID is required.
    Bucks county usually 15 minutes in and out for me, although it was two years ago last time I did it. I also filled the form out at home and bought it with me.

  10. #20
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    Default Re: CCW Proof of Residency Validity

    Quote Originally Posted by Carson View Post
    There is a reason proof of residency, other than a government ID is required.
    Except that it's NOT required by statute, and the sheriff has no authority to impose it. The application requires DL information and address. Period. No leases, no utility bills.

    The scenario you presented (and all other "what abouts") are cover by the applicant's signature affirming the accuracy of the information provided.

    Sheriff's can't impose new conditions in an attempt to thwart fraud. Regardless of good intention, they simply do not have that authority, and that fact is long-established, and supported by the outcomes of lawsuits challenging this very type of behavior.
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