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June 11th, 2021, 03:27 PM #51Super Member
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Re: ATF Proposed Rule Change: Factoring Criteria for Firearms with Attached Braces
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June 11th, 2021, 04:06 PM #52
Re: ATF Proposed Rule Change: Factoring Criteria for Firearms with Attached Braces
My point was that distinguishing between an SBR and AR pistol because of a brace and a strap is just as arbitrary as distinguishing a rifle and SBR because of 0.1", but they did. Until now apparently.
Yep, I just used 1.5" because most SBRs I've heard about had 14.5" barrels or shorter.
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June 11th, 2021, 05:04 PM #53Super Member
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Re: ATF Proposed Rule Change: Factoring Criteria for Firearms with Attached Braces
If you want to make it even more confusing add in bullpup guns to the mix. My PS90 is classified as a rifle but is shorter in length with a 16" barrel than my 10.5" Zev AR pistol. As of now the Zev could be loaded with a round in the chamber in my truck but the PS90 couldn't because it falls under a rifle. It really makes you wonder what jackass came up with all these dumbass rules.
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June 11th, 2021, 05:25 PM #54
Re: ATF Proposed Rule Change: Factoring Criteria for Firearms with Attached Braces
"This proposed change is patently illegal and will result in BATFE expending substantial resources to defend itself against legal action. If adopted, enforcing it will divert BATFE resources away from efforts that do have a connection to crime prevention and revenue enforcement. The change would benefit neither the financial interests of the United States, nor the operational flexibility of BATFE. Since the proposed regulation has no connection to any known dynamics of criminal activity which could justify the financial and operational costs, the change should not be adopted."
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June 29th, 2021, 04:26 PM #55
Re: ATF Proposed Rule Change: Factoring Criteria for Firearms with Attached Braces
Finally got around to submitting my comment. Keep em goin!
In America arms are free merchandise such that anyone who has the capital may make their houses into armories and their gardens into parks of artillery. - Ira Allen, 1796
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June 30th, 2021, 11:40 AM #56Junior Member
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Re: ATF Proposed Rule Change: Factoring Criteria for Firearms with Attached Braces
PS90's aren't as widespread as braced pistols though. Plus they shoot 5.7, which is a pistol round. It's a great round but it's not 5.56/.300 blk/7.62x39. And again not as widespread. Braced pistols they said 3-7 million. But that number is so low and off. The owner of SBA said he made well over 3 million of just the one type of brace they sell. They make at least 3 or 4. Plus the other companies that made them. Chinese copies bought. Real estimates are probably 20 million or more. Someone said 40 million. IDK. But far more than PS90's/bullpups are out there, I assume.
I make the point of how many there are of one vs another. Because both tax revenue, plus a list of guns is clearly the goal. Confiscation later? Call me a conspiracy theorist. But when the president says there's no point in going against a tyrant government as they have F15's/Nukes. And Chipman says anything semi auto magazine fed over .22 is an "assault rifle". It's hard to say chipping away category of guns in segments for banning, isn't the goal.
(They forgot about Vietnam/Afghanistan, and being matched by farmers and goat herders.. Most people in America are too comfortable to fight anyways. We could get into what the political climate would look like if the ATF/Government starts taking out innocents by accident. But I digress.)
That's why everyone should be commenting, even if they don't have a brace. Same for the receiver rules. They'll come for what you have next, until there's nothing left.
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July 1st, 2021, 12:38 PM #57
Re: ATF Proposed Rule Change: Factoring Criteria for Firearms with Attached Braces
Not sure how I didn't see this until today, but it's nice to see. Maybe it will affect the ATF's rubber stam, err, "decision making" process. Or not.
Looks like Toomey actually signed this, surprisingly (last page). Not sure which two Republicans did not. I saw Mittens' signature on it too. You can read the actual letter at the second link.
Biden administration's proposal to regulate pistol-stabilizing braces comes under fire from Republicans
"Nearly the entire Senate Republican caucus signed on to a letter Thursday demanding a withdrawal of a proposed ATF rule that would regulate some pistol-stabilizing braces."
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rep...ilizing-braces
https://thereload.com/app/uploads/20...-6.24.2021.pdf
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July 1st, 2021, 02:55 PM #58
Re: ATF Proposed Rule Change: Factoring Criteria for Firearms with Attached Braces
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire.
America must suffer until it reaches the point that Liberty is more important than Comforts.
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