ATF Proposed Rule Change: Factoring Criteria for Firearms with Attached Braces

[PAMedic=F|A=]

Bring an army...

Oh wait *cough waco cough* nevermind.

Maybe a good time to throw a giant eff you in their faces and buy a bunch of hellfire devices as well? Lol

They brought an army and still lost people.

And this isn*t the 90s anymore. The bundy stand off proved that. The fbi only murdered one person, and not a single person was convicted. The judge wasn*t amused by their fake charges and fake evidence.

[HanzMcFeely]

They brought an army and still lost people.

And this isn*t the 90s anymore. The bundy stand off proved that. The fbi only murdered one person, and not a single person was convicted. The judge wasn*t amused by their fake charges and fake evidence.

FRT15 triggers are back in stock, just in case

Might be time to build a braced ar10 pistol :think:

[KPShooting]

Not that it isn't completely arbitrary, but if you can't keep your pistol build under 7.5 pounds, you are doing it wrong. My last rifle build was under 7 without trying particularly hard.

-Zach

Looks at my current build already weighing close to 10 without all the goodies I want on it....

[zachomega]

Looks at my current build already weighing close to 10 without all the goodies I want on it....

What configuration on earth could weigh almost 10 pounds?

-Zach

[streaker69]

What configuration on earth could weigh almost 10 pounds?

-Zach

[ray h]

That was a lot of reading and for me at least , a lot of what I'd call "california math."
Of everything that was "analyzed" and "figured", nowhere did I see the number of lives this proposal was to save.
Just come right out and say "no"
And not wanting to hijack but why are they waiting so long for the mag ban.
I'd have lost a lot of money on bets that it would have happened by now.

I'm betting this ruling will cost more lives than it saves.

[wanneroo]

If you look at all their criteria, it's all typical libtardism designed to trip people up and make an example of them.

[KPShooting]

What configuration on earth could weigh almost 10 pounds?

-Zach

12.3 in Hanson barrel
11.5 in 7075 handguard
BCM handstop
Perst 3
Aero Upper (I think they weigh a few more ounces than usual)
Aimpoint PRO in a Scalarworks mount
Magpul grip
SBA3
Loaded mag

Currently comes in about 9.2 Lbs and I don't even have a white light or IR illuminator on there yet.

[zachomega]

12.3 in Hanson barrel
11.5 in 7075 handguard
BCM handstop
Perst 3
Aero Upper (I think they weigh a new more ounces than usual)
Aimpoint PRO in a Scalarworks mount
Magpul grip
SBA3
Loaded mag

Currently comes in about 9.2 Lbs and I don't even have a white light or IR illuminator on there yet.

Does the optic count toward the weight for the ATF's purposes?

-Zach

[ShadeRabbit]

12.3 in Hanson barrel
11.5 in 7075 handguard
BCM handstop
Perst 3
Aero Upper (I think they weigh a few more ounces than usual)
Aimpoint PRO in a Scalarworks mount
Magpul grip
SBA3
Loaded mag

Currently comes in about 9.2 Lbs and I don't even have a white light or IR illuminator on there yet.

Does the optic count toward the weight for the ATF's purposes?

-Zach

Everything does, because they are arguing that a gun that is more than 120 ounces is too heavy for one-handed use, once you put a loaded mag in.

They do specify the 120 ounces weight limit is with an unloaded magazine. About the only clear thing in their gobbledy-gook document, except they fail to specify if they're referring to an empty 10 round magazine, or an empty 30 round one. If one weighs pistol with an empty 10 round magazine, but also owns a 30 round magazine, does it trigger their favorite clause of "constructive possession?" LOL