LTCF SSN?

**imashooter2** · June 7th, 2021, 11:40 PM

If your name is Marcellus Glephlarshnem, the SSN probably doesn*t do much. If your name is John Smith it might save you a bit of appeal hassle.

**streaker69** · June 7th, 2021, 11:41 PM

Originally Posted by imashooter2

If your name is Marcellus Glephlarshnem, the SSN probably doesn*t do much. If your name is John Smith it might save you a bit of appeal hassle.

That is my name, no wonder I never have any trouble.

**azmule** · June 8th, 2021, 07:06 PM

Thanks all - I genarally avoid using it for non-tax purposes, just on principle, but just because federal law requires any official non-tax form request to say "optional," doesn't mean it's always treated as optional.

**gnbrotz** · June 9th, 2021, 04:36 PM

It is optional, thanks to Mike Stollenwerk suing the PSP (Stollenwerk v. Miller, Civil Action No. 04-5510).

In 2006 a ruling was issued stating that the (prior) PSP requirement was invalid under the Federal Privacy Act.

*You know your an old-timer here if you actually know who Mike Stollenwork is.

**Gunsnwater** · June 9th, 2021, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by Delkal

Last renewal in Bucks I put my last 4 digits. The first thing the guy at the desk was to fill out the whole number.

This was in May last year when just about every other sheriffs office was closed so I didn't question it. Probably still wouldn't......Just give me my LTCF.

That*s the definition of incomplete. All or nothing for the social security number.

**Gunowner99** · June 9th, 2021, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by streaker69

I've never filled it out here in Lancaster. Never got rejected.

Same here, never an issue.

**Sgt.K** · June 9th, 2021, 11:19 PM

Before getting married and moving out of folks house in my early 20s I had numerous instances of Dad (Jr.) and I (3rd, or III) getting things messed up. The worst was when I sent in the check (remember, ~35 years ago) for my motorcycle insurance with my full name preprinted and my policy number hand written *on the check*. They applied the amount to his policy, making him paid in full for about 4 years, and cancelled mine, then didn't want to fix it because they weren't taking any new accounts at the time. I raised holy hell and "won". I am now staying with the folks (same house for 52 years now) to help out as Dad's dementia worsens and Mom's memory starts to go.

All that to say: I don't believe that Dad has anything on his record that would cause issues for me on a background check, but I have no desire to fix anything that could happen. Besides, I was in the Army - .gov already has my SSN, my prints, and my DNA.