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  1. #1
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    Default I was banned from Guardian Training Center for Life tonight

    *post under construction

    So Me and a buddy was banned from Guardian Training Center tonight after we both honestly fucked up.... I agree there were things to address but the punishment clearly didn't fit the crime

    Strike 1



    It was my first there at GTC... I walked in with my rifle over to the counter and I tell the guy "I'm here to shoot" and the some other guy with blue facial hair comes outta nowhere and said "hey your shotgun is out" and the guy behind the counter tells him yeah but its in a scabbard but he asked to see my shotgun and quickly points out that the trigger housing is "exposed"

    Now.. that's where I fucked up. I AGREE THAT I FUCKED UP... I didn't even have time to react to be honest so I then tell him that "it wasn't loaded".... now I honestly don't know if he took what I said as I was "arguing with him" or being "disrespectful" but he tells me I think we're done here as in... he's putting me out... for life! My buddy who is sitting down in the waiting area is asking what's going on? confused and I'm like... I guess I'm getting "outta here" because I fucked up but then the guys asked me "have you read the rules?" and I said no.. first time here but some other guy said something to him and he decided to give me a break and then gave me the rules and disclosure and all that and tells me.... I'm paraphrasing here... "me saying its not loaded" its one of those code words that "I'm an idiot" sand then tells me to go over there and read the rules and if I had any questions ask him... so there's my strike one. I felt low that I made a mistake like that... I agree that it wasn't safe and I told myself there are things I really needs to shape up so it doesn't happen again. So I made sure I read... all the rules because I thought he was going to test me on them... My whole issue with GTC about the safety issue was... it was clearly a teachable moment here... but instead of telling me to get my shit together.... they go straight to "get the fuck out for life" so not only did I felt low and like an idiot (to a degree.. rightfully so) those guys were jerks and I jus felt unwelcomed there

    but hey I'm thinking its over... lets just shoot and try to have fun but then my buddy fucks up

    Strike 2

    No steel core ammunition... So while I'm getting my ammunition inspected and getting my ear and eye pro situated..... this is what my friend is saying what happened

    He had a magazine
    Last edited by Muscle Master; May 5th, 2021 at 11:18 PM.

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    Default Re: I was banned from Guardian Training Center for Life tonight

    I'm listening...

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    Default Re: I was banned from Guardian Training Center for Life tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by bogey1 View Post
    I'm listening...
    me too ............ ?

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    Default Re: I was banned from Guardian Training Center for Life tonight

    This one time...at band camp....

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    Default Re: I was banned from Guardian Training Center for Life tonight

    Pandemic slowed things down, they haven't enough people to go 'full-Karen' on, so they're a bit froggy.

    That said... do you look like a crook? Appearance does have an impact. If yes, go think about it, and adjust. If no, formulate a message to the owner.

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    Default Re: I was banned from Guardian Training Center for Life tonight

    I stopped reading after they stated THE GUY IN THE BLUE BEARD ? I would have been F__ __ KED Cause I dye my goatee pink for cancer awareness month in October !

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    Default Re: I was banned from Guardian Training Center for Life tonight

    You missed the party in this thread.... https://forum.pafoa.org/showthread.php?t=297481

    This is why I only go to SGL ranges. Yeah, round limit is pretty lame, but at least I don't have some employee or RSO who has a tiny ding-dong and feels the need to make up for it breathing down my neck.

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    Default Re: I was banned from Guardian Training Center for Life tonight

    Yeah, the owner and their armorer, (should be blue beard iirc) are complete assholes, and should not be dealing with customers at all. They should just stay in the back and jerk each other off for the whole shift, instead of just 3/4 of it.
    Mostly browsing these days, and expanding the collection.

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    Default Re: I was banned from Guardian Training Center for Life tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by Carnes View Post
    Pandemic slowed things down, they haven't enough people to go 'full-Karen' on, so they're a bit froggy.

    That said... do you look like a crook? Appearance does have an impact. If yes, go think about it, and adjust. If no, formulate a message to the owner.
    I mean.... we were black?.... I had a Nike outfit on but far from looking like a criminal

    I honestly didn*t feel anything racial occurred in the grand scheme of things and there were other black people there and they didn*t have a problem

    We were escorted out kinda weird.... blue beard put on a body cam and escorted us out to our cars and recorded our license plate.... maybe he thought we were hood scum... I don*t see how... it*s not like we were shooting Taurus*s with shitty extended mags

    I had a $2500 rifle with $1000 worth of accessories attached to it, I had at least a $1000 worth of ammo I brought with me giving today*s exchange rate

    My buddy is a vet who actually had a couple tours in Iraq, and I*m a chemist in the toxic waste industry

    Far from criminals

    And sorry for not finishing my original post everyone.... while I typing everything my wife blew a tire and I had to go put on a spare and had to go to bed because I had to be up at 5am

    I will finish detailing what happened to my buddy but basically they accused him of trying to sneak in Armor piercing rounds (XM855) when my buddy deliberately told one of the clerks that particular magazine had green tip and he was not shooting that at all but blue beard didn*t hear that conversation and came outta nowhere again and began to berate him... then he walks off to go grab his camera to escort us off the property

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    Default Re: I was banned from Guardian Training Center for Life tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by Muscle Master View Post
    I mean.... we were black?.... I had a Nike outfit on but far from looking like a criminal

    I honestly didn*t feel anything racial occurred in the grand scheme of things and there were other black people there and they didn*t have a problem

    We were escorted out kinda weird.... blue beard put on a body cam and escorted us out to our scars and recorder our license plate.... maybe he thought we were hood scum... I don*t see how... it*s not like we were shooting Taurus*s with shitty extended mags

    I had a $2500 rifle with $1000 worth of accessories attached to it, I had at least a $1000 worth of ammo I brought with me giving today*s exchange rate

    My buddy is a vet who actually had a couple tours in Iraq, and I*m a chemist in the toxic waste industry

    Far from criminals

    And sorry for not finishing my original post everyone.... while I typing everything my wife blew a tire and I had to go put on a spare and had to go to bed because I had to be up at 5am

    I will finish detailing what happened to my buddy but basically they accused him of trying to sneak in Armor piercing rounds (XM855) when my buddy deliberately told one of the clerks that particular magazine had green tip and he was not shooting that at all but blue beard didn*t hear that conversation and came outta nowhere again and began to berate him... then he walks off to go grab his camera to escort us off the property
    Yeah, seems like you met the assholes that were messing around with sock puppet accounts here before.

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