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    Does anyone know if I purchase a full size cannon do I need a background check run?

    The cannon Iím interested in:

    https://hernironworks.com/?s=1857+na...t_type=product

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    No. Its a muzzleloader
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    That looks really similar to the cannon they used to pop off a few times a day during the Gunmakers' Fair at Dixon Muzzleloading (Kempton). I had a table there for probably 12-13 years and I NEVER got used to that thing going off, and they'd give you a countdown over the loudspeakers too. Holy crap was that thing loud - and you felt it in your bones!
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    Shouldn't the full scale one only be twice the price of the 1/2 scale one?

    Plus, no one needs a cannon to hunt deer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    Shouldn't the full scale one only be twice the price of the 1/2 scale one?

    Plus, no one needs a cannon to hunt deer.

    I do not believe their is a maximum caliber for large game, and such a round is more likely to produce a humane kill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    Shouldn't the full scale one only be twice the price of the 1/2 scale one?

    Plus, no one needs a cannon to hunt deer.

    I do not believe their is a maximum caliber for large game, and such a round is more likely to produce a humane kill.
    "Cives Arma Ferant"

    "I know I'm not James Bond, that's why I don't keep a loaded gun under the pillow, or bang Russian spies on a regular basis." - GunLawyer001

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    Interesting question. I texted a friend who is on a Napoleon Civil War Re-enactor gun crew. He questions the price, says a real Napoleon would be around $60,000 and reproductions are normally more than $5000. A real Napoleon was built before 1898 and does not require a background check. I did not tell him this was a repo and newly built. No more info and not much help, sorry.

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    Charlie Smithgall in Lancaster is the PA resident cannon expert. He has a nice collection...

    Smithgalls Drug Store (also sells guns)

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    Buyer acknowledges that there are no warranties applicable to the goods either
    expressed or implied in each instance of purchase, and that this agreement is
    expressly made part of each and every purchase.
    Buyer agrees that the iron castings are sold only as iron castings. Seller specifically
    does not expressly or implied warrant the iron castings, their merchantability,
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    As long as the gun doesn't use fixed cartridges, it isn't a "firearm". Technically a 16" gun from the battleship New Jersey isn't a firearm and isn't subject to NFA or GCA laws, nor to PA laws. (explosive shells would be)

    I have an uncle in the process of making a 2" to 3" bore cannon from a train axle. So far he has the exterior turned, and has stock ready for trunnions, and design for a carriage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    Shouldn't the full scale one only be twice the price of the 1/2 scale one?

    Plus, no one needs a cannon to hunt deer.
    Try to make a steel tube twice the diameter and twice the length of an example, and see if you have enough steel. I think you'll come up way short.
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