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  1. #101
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    Default Re: Public Statement Clarifying Our Position on Behalf of the Officers/BOD of FOAC

    Quote Originally Posted by GunLawyer001 View Post
    You interests are not identical to "what you want". Maybe some guy climbed in your window and you shot him, and you think it was self-defense. But it turns out he was banging your hot young wife, for the last 6 months. And someone from your house called him 30 minutes before he arrived at your house. And your wife swears that she told you about the affair and you said "I'll lure him here and kill him". And he was unarmed. And your sister and mother testify that you have always had a hot temper and they've had to drag you off beating up neighbor kids in the past.

    So your lawyer, the most experienced and most successful lawyer in the county, tells you that if you go to trial, you will be convicted. No question at all. And the death penalty is an option, since the evidence is that you lured the victim in and lay in wait. if you go to trial, it's either life in prison, or execution after a few years of languishing on Death Row. But the DA is inexplicably offering a plea of manslaughter, with 5 years in prison.

    What are your best interests, and what would a competent lawyer advise you to do?
    It's still the client's decision and the Attorney's obligation to provide the best representation in accordance with the Client's wishes.

    I have no heartburn over a private decision to allow or not allow particular items to be sold at a venue. I am not comfortable with an Organization that I pay to represent me aiding my foes, which is what I've taken away from what I've read

    This would more akin to Patton telling the Germans what Monty's battle plans were, than Patton turning his guns on Monty
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    Default Re: Public Statement Clarifying Our Position on Behalf of the Officers/BOD of FOAC

    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
    Patton was a racist and a bigot and made many statements to that fact - "Everyone believes that the Displaced Person is a human being, which he is not, and this applies particularly to the Jews, who are lower than animals."

    Great General? Yes. Decent human. Nope.
    Patton was sidelined for slapping a soldier. The Allies took their best general out of action because they didn't like something he did off the battlefield.

    Does that seem smart? We won the war anyway, mostly because nobody was bombing American factories and oil production and trains, but it was a bad move.
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    Default Re: Public Statement Clarifying Our Position on Behalf of the Officers/BOD of FOAC

    Quote Originally Posted by ExFlyinguy View Post
    It's still the client's decision and the Attorney's obligation to provide the best representation in accordance with the Client's wishes.

    I have no heartburn over a private decision to allow or not allow particular items to be sold at a venue. I am not comfortable with an Organization that I pay to represent me aiding my foes, which is what I've taken away from what I've read

    This would more akin to Patton telling the Germans what Monty's battle pans were, than Patton turning his guns on Monty
    No, it's more akin to Patton pulling his tanks back because the German 88's were about to pound them into scrap. "But you're moving in the wrong direction, General!!"

    BTW, the "best representation" doesn't mean "blowing sunshine up the client's ass". Some cases are unwinnable, but they could be survivable. I get paid to tell the clients what reality looks like, not to charge the Russian guns with 599 of my fellow Light Brigade members.
    Attorney Phil Kline, AKA gunlawyer001@gmail.com
    Ce sac n'est pas un jouet.

  4. #104
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    Default Re: Public Statement Clarifying Our Position on Behalf of the Officers/BOD of FOAC

    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
    Patton was a racist and a bigot and made many statements to that fact - "Everyone believes that the Displaced Person is a human being, which he is not, and this applies particularly to the Jews, who are lower than animals."

    Great General? Yes. Decent human. Nope.
    I stand corrected.

    He was also a pretty good poet.


    The Turds of the Scouts


    The scout sat in the cactus shade
    He labored mightily
    That he did try to take a shit
    Was very plain to see.

    For days and weeks he'd ridden hard
    He'd eaten many a meal
    Yet every morn he waits in vain
    Some bowel movement to feel.

    Now scouts by nature are so bad
    That long-imprisoned turds
    Must soon assume their parent's shape
    And too be evil birds.


    The faces which in common folk
    Resembles pumpkin pies
    In scouts assumes a texture dark
    Yes, lives and breathes and sighs.


    Now as the scout his labor pressed
    At last he seemed to feel
    A slimy thing crawl from his ass
    And purr against his heel.


    He little recked, the hardy brute
    The suffering he did cause
    He did not pause to wipe his ass
    He just pulled up his drawers.


    He jumped upon his sore backed horse
    And galloped fast away
    Oh! little heeded he or cared
    What his dying turd would say.


    It lay and suffered in the heat
    Its limpid eyes rolled high
    And from its fast congealing gills
    Escaped a gentle sigh.


    I came upon it suffering there
    I sobbed to see its pain
    When the pale green fog my nostrils reached
    I held my nose in vain.

    I dashed in agony away
    My pity turned to pain
    And as the sun dipped in the west
    It sighed and died amain.
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    Default Re: Public Statement Clarifying Our Position on Behalf of the Officers/BOD of FOAC

    Quote Originally Posted by RockIsland View Post
    I stand corrected.

    He was also a pretty good poet.


    The Turds of the Scouts


    The scout sat in the cactus shade
    He labored mightily
    That he did try to take a shit
    Was very plain to see.

    For days and weeks he'd ridden hard
    He'd eaten many a meal
    Yet every morn he waits in vain
    Some bowel movement to feel.

    Now scouts by nature are so bad
    That long-imprisoned turds
    Must soon assume their parent's shape
    And too be evil birds.


    The faces which in common folk
    Resembles pumpkin pies
    In scouts assumes a texture dark
    Yes, lives and breathes and sighs.


    Now as the scout his labor pressed
    At last he seemed to feel
    A slimy thing crawl from his ass
    And purr against his heel.


    He little recked, the hardy brute
    The suffering he did cause
    He did not pause to wipe his ass
    He just pulled up his drawers.


    He jumped upon his sore backed horse
    And galloped fast away
    Oh! little heeded he or cared
    What his dying turd would say.


    It lay and suffered in the heat
    Its limpid eyes rolled high
    And from its fast congealing gills
    Escaped a gentle sigh.


    I came upon it suffering there
    I sobbed to see its pain
    When the pale green fog my nostrils reached
    I held my nose in vain.

    I dashed in agony away
    My pity turned to pain
    And as the sun dipped in the west
    It sighed and died amain.
    Did you find some peyote buttons or something?
    Gender confusion is a mental illness

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    Default Re: Boycott Eagle arms and FOAC

    Quote Originally Posted by HKusp 45 View Post
    Jordan has been very active in this I agree that they are wrong hands down all day long, yes the show can choose to not have them sold but for a pro 2A group to agree based on criminals doing what they do I disagree. As for Eagle arms yes it's their venue ...... and bet me that going forward they are going to get more criminals than buyers show up now. I'm not supporting either of them as they are not supporting me or us.
    I did about 20 minutes of Q & A with Jordan today on "A Black Guy With A Gun" the video is up on Facebook.

    Yeah. I had a real issue with some of the things that Kim said to me on our phone call. One of the things was something like "Have you seen the kinds of people who buy these things?" and I said "Yeah. People like me. I have been buying from Jordan for years."

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    Default Re: Boycott Eagle arms and FOAC

    Sad to see 2A folks eating their own.

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    Default Re: Boycott Eagle arms and FOAC

    Quote Originally Posted by ItchyTick View Post
    Sad to see 2A folks eating their own.
    Would never have happened if not for Mr. Stolfer's big mouth and his foot that fit right in it.
    I called to check my ZIP CODE!....DY-NO-MITE!!!

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    Default Re: Boycott Eagle arms and FOAC

    Quote Originally Posted by Emptymag View Post
    Would never have happened if not for Mr. Stolfer's big mouth and his foot that fit right in it.
    How many of us would still be here, if we were harshly judged and destroyed for the dumbest thing we did?

    Not me. Not you.
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    Ce sac n'est pas un jouet.

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    Default Re: Boycott Eagle arms and FOAC

    Quote Originally Posted by GunLawyer001 View Post
    How many of us would still be here, if we were harshly judged and destroyed for the dumbest thing we did?

    Not me. Not you.
    I don't disagree here, but we're also not public figures that are the face of an organization.
    -Brandon


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