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  1. #21
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    Default Re: Rifle private sale questions

    My advice, for what its worth... and, like they say, opinions are like arse holes.... just do it through an FFL. Best for your future protection as other mention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pa350z View Post
    My advice, for what its worth... and, like they say, opinions are like arse holes.... just do it through an FFL. Best for your future protection as other mention.
    Well, like you admitted, you opinion stinks. If someone told me he would only sell a rifle through an FFL, I would tell him to shove it up his "opinion".
    Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.

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    Default Re: Rifle private sale questions

    I know I've passed up a bunch of firearms in the Classifieds because the buyer wanted to go through a dealer for a long gun.
    Last edited by sawgunner73; March 16th, 2021 at 11:42 AM.

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    Default Re: Rifle private sale questions

    I ask anyways if it's something I'm interested in.

    "Hey, I know you said "FFL only", but if you change your mind, I'm interested.
    I'm happy to provide a copy of my PA driver's license as proof of residency, as well as my LTCF.
    If you want to do a bill of sale, I'm fine with that as well."

    Most times, they agree to it.
    Sometimes they don't even ask for what I've offered.
    They were just trying to weed out shady people and cover their ass.

    It never hurts to ask! (Diplomatically)
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    Default Re: Rifle private sale questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Emptymag View Post
    I ask anyways if it's something I'm interested in.

    "Hey, I know you said "FFL only", but if you change your mind, I'm interested.
    I'm happy to provide a copy of my PA driver's license as proof of residency, as well as my LTCF.
    If you want to do a bill of sale, I'm fine with that as well."

    Most times, they agree to it.
    Sometimes they don't even ask for what I've offered.
    They were just trying to weed out shady people and cover their ass.

    It never hurts to ask! (Diplomatically)
    Makes a lot of sense .

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    Default Re: Rifle private sale questions

    Quote Originally Posted by gnbrotz View Post
    If I don't know the buyer, I ask "Are you a PA resident?" and "Are you a prohibited person?". If they affirm they are, and are not respectively, the sale is good to go.

    It's possible to be a non-resident and still be in possession of a valid PA DL, it's possible to be barred from LTCF and still be allowed to own long arms, and it's possible to hold a LTCF and still be disqualified from possession based on clear statute, so in my mind, those extra steps really don't "prove" anything.

    Statute requires that I "not know" they are prohibited. Their answers provide me a basis to make that decision. I am not obligated to *prove* their eligibility, and as the government must do, I assume innocence until guilt has been proven.
    What comes to mind is a conviction for misdemeanor shoplifting could be enough to deny a LTCF but they're still allowed to buy and own guns.

  7. #27
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    Default Re: Rifle private sale questions

    Just bought a rifle yesterday. I handed him the money, he handed me the rifle. Done.

  8. #28
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    Default Re: Rifle private sale questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Booner View Post
    Just bought a rifle yesterday. I handed him the money, he handed me the rifle. Done.
    As it should be.

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    Default Re: Rifle private sale questions

    Quote Originally Posted by sawgunner73 View Post
    As it should be.
    Agreed, if you hand someone money expecting a rifle and they don't give it to you, you have a situation on your hands...


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    Default Re: Rifle private sale questions

    Quote Originally Posted by jthrelf View Post
    Agreed, if you hand someone money expecting a rifle and they point it at you, you have a situation on your hands...

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