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    Default Open carrier unlawfully tased, arrested, and falsely charged wins in court

    "Cives Arma Ferant"

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    Until they get rid of qualified immunity this type of overreach will continue to happen with impunity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JenniferG View Post
    Until they get rid of qualified immunity this type of overreach will continue to happen with impunity.
    Listening to the 911 call taker, the manager lied about asking him to leave, but the dispatcher ask all the questions so responding officers knew what was actually going on, IE, just some guy being pestered while trying to buy something. Can*t find anything to criticize there.

    Would like to hear the other end from the dispatcher to the officers responding, because their response seems shockingly inappropriate considering what dispatch knew.
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    Walking around a store with a shotgun isn't too bright legal yes, smart no.

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    *spoiler- 15 min to say he got off and nothing else.

    Legal- yes, good idea-No.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosco the Iroc View Post
    *spoiler- 15 min to say he got off and nothing else.

    Legal- yes, good idea-No.
    He walked into a gun store, which Walmart and rural king still is, to get an accessory for his gun and took it with him to make sure it fit. How is this not a good idea.

    Management should be fired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAMedic=F|A= View Post
    He walked into a gun store, which Walmart and rural king still is, to get an accessory for his gun and took it with him to make sure it fit. How is this not a good idea.

    Management should be fired.
    I didn't watch the video. If my memory serves me correctly my LGS requires long guns be cased, and hand guns to be holstered or cased. All of which seem reasonable to me.

    Was this knuckle head walking around at low ready? That would be where I think it to be "not a good idea".
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAMedic=F|A= View Post
    He walked into a gun store, which Walmart and rural king still is, to get an accessory for his gun and took it with him to make sure it fit. How is this not a good idea.

    Management should be fired.
    With an uncased shotgun? Never a good idea. It's along the lines of pulling out your pistol to try holsters in a shop-any shop. I brought one in a case and got an ok, showed clear.

    Fuck the get a sling BS, do that to a reg gunshop and you get yelled at best or even drawn on.

    Does that excuse the cops response-NO!
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    Now for the Million Dollar Settlement !

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    You may get your wish very soon. But I guarantee it won*t have the effect you thought it would.


    Qualified immunity allows police officers to respond to incidents quickly, make split-second decisions and rely on their training and the current state of the law in making those decisions. The loss of qualified immunity protection would have a profound effect on police officers and would limit their ability and willingness to respond to both critical incidents and routine calls without hesitation.

    Qualified immunity does not protect officers that "knowingly violate the law." In cases where it is obviously, or sufficiently clear, that the officer's conduct was unlawful, qualified immunity is unavailable and the case will proceed to trial.

    Qualified immunity does not protect a police officer from criminal charges, internal investigations and/or termination.
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