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    Default Re: So Carjackings are a thing these days...

    Quote Originally Posted by SevenMilePete View Post
    "The federal carjacking statute was enacted in 1992 and was amended in 1994. The statute provides that whoever, with the intent to cause death or serious bodily harm, takes a motor vehicle from another person by force, violence, or intimidation, which motor vehicle has been transported, shipped, or received in interstate or foreign commerce, commits a federal offense. The original statute included a requirement regarding the possession of a firearm. The amended statute substituted the firearm requirement with the element of an intent to cause death or serious bodily harm."

    https://www.johnedwardslaw.com/newsl...ng-carjacking/
    I don't see this boding well in the long run since he didn't walk into the Capitol in DC.

    The Federal Bureau of Investigation has the responsibility for investigating violations of the federal carjacking statute.
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    Default Re: So Carjackings are a thing these days...

    Quote Originally Posted by SevenMilePete View Post
    "The federal carjacking statute was enacted in 1992 and was amended in 1994. The statute provides that whoever, with the intent to cause death or serious bodily harm, takes a motor vehicle from another person by force, violence, or intimidation, which motor vehicle has been transported, shipped, or received in interstate or foreign commerce, commits a federal offense. The original statute included a requirement regarding the possession of a firearm. The amended statute substituted the firearm requirement with the element of an intent to cause death or serious bodily harm."

    https://www.johnedwardslaw.com/newsl...ng-carjacking/
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    Default Re: So Carjackings are a thing these days...

    Quote Originally Posted by Story View Post
    I wonder where Akubu was born and if not here, when did he come here?
    Law enforcement sources tell CBS3 they’ve traced some carjacked vehicles to shipping ports in Newark, New Jersey, and Wilmington, Delaware, where those stolen cars are then exported out of the country. Sources say some of the vehicles taken at gunpoint off city streets ended up in Africa.

    https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/20...a-sources-say/

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    Default Re: So Carjackings are a thing these days...

    Quote Originally Posted by SevenMilePete View Post
    "The federal carjacking statute was enacted in 1992 and was amended in 1994. The statute provides that whoever, with the intent to cause death or serious bodily harm, takes a motor vehicle from another person by force, violence, or intimidation, which motor vehicle has been transported, shipped, or received in interstate or foreign commerce, commits a federal offense. The original statute included a requirement regarding the possession of a firearm. The amended statute substituted the firearm requirement with the element of an intent to cause death or serious bodily harm."
    Interesting,so it only becomes federal if the stolen vehicles are taken out of state or country.
    I have heard that Toyota vehicles are highly sought after in some areas in Africa,there's no telling how many cars Akubu has had shipped out.
    Last edited by Krichardson; February 25th, 2022 at 11:42 AM.
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    Default Re: So Carjackings are a thing these days...

    Quote Originally Posted by 85MikeTPI View Post
    Philadelphia mayor says residents 'should be concerned about their safety' as there are 'too many guns'
    Philadelphia Mayor Jim Kenney made announcement during press release discussing arrest of alleged carjacking ringleader and accused murder

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/philadelp...ey-safety-guns
    What would Philadelphia's violent crime rate be if you exclude black male perps?

    Blaming all guns for crime is exactly like blaming all blacks for crime. Except that the crime-per-gun stats are not the same as the crime-per-black-male stats. Anyone remember that stat about 25% of black male DC-area residents being currently in jail, charged with a crime, or on probation? Does ANYPLACE have 25% of all guns being recently used in crimes? Maybe NYC, where there are few if any legal guns and only the criminals have them.

    We need a word like "racist" to cover the sort of blanket stupidity of blaming all guns for crime, when it's less than 1% of guns. We don't blame all blacks for the small subset of black criminals, why do we blame all gun owner for teens using stolen guns to defend their drug corners?

    I will acknowledge that violent crime is mostly a "male" problem, which is why 90% of all prison inmates are male. I wonder if that makes me a sexist, for acknowledging that reality?

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    Default Re: So Carjackings are a thing these days...

    Quote Originally Posted by Krichardson View Post
    Interesting,so it only becomes federal if the stolen vehicles are taken out of state or country.


    I have heard that Toyota vehicles are highly sought after in some areas in Africa,there's no telling how many cars Akubu has had shipped out.
    Nope. From the same site

    The requirement of interstate or foreign commerce is met when a motor vehicle is moved in interstate or foreign commerce. In order to prove interstate or foreign commerce, the federal government only needs to prove that the motor vehicle traveled at some time in interstate or foreign commerce, such as when the motor vehicle is manufactured in one state and is transported across state lines to another state. The government does not need to prove that the motor vehicle was moving in interstate commerce at the time that it was carjacked. It only needs to prove that the motor vehicle was moving in interstate commerce at one time in the past.

    I guess if you buy a car in Illinois, and it was built in Detroit, it's not covered by federal law. Good luck finding one of those.

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    Default Re: So Carjackings are a thing these days...

    Quote Originally Posted by SevenMilePete View Post
    Nope. From the same site

    The requirement of interstate or foreign commerce is met when a motor vehicle is moved in interstate or foreign commerce. In order to prove interstate or foreign commerce, the federal government only needs to prove that the motor vehicle traveled at some time in interstate or foreign commerce, such as when the motor vehicle is manufactured in one state and is transported across state lines to another state. The government does not need to prove that the motor vehicle was moving in interstate commerce at the time that it was carjacked. It only needs to prove that the motor vehicle was moving in interstate commerce at one time in the past.

    I guess if you buy a car in Illinois, and it was built in Detroit, it's not covered by federal law. Good luck finding one of those.
    That's quite a word salad,glad it applied to that Akubu bastard's case.
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    Default Re: So Carjackings are a thing these days...

    Quote Originally Posted by SevenMilePete View Post
    Nope. From the same site

    The requirement of interstate or foreign commerce is met when a motor vehicle is moved in interstate or foreign commerce. In order to prove interstate or foreign commerce, the federal government only needs to prove that the motor vehicle traveled at some time in interstate or foreign commerce, such as when the motor vehicle is manufactured in one state and is transported across state lines to another state. The government does not need to prove that the motor vehicle was moving in interstate commerce at the time that it was carjacked. It only needs to prove that the motor vehicle was moving in interstate commerce at one time in the past.

    I guess if you buy a car in Illinois, and it was built in Detroit, it's not covered by federal law. Good luck finding one of those.
    Detroit is in Michigan...

    Back when VW was making rabbits in PA, I bought one in PA, but it did eventually travel out of state.
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    Default Re: So Carjackings are a thing these days...

    I guess if you buy a car in Illinois, and it was built in Detroit, it's not covered by federal law.
    Why? Did Illinois annex Detroit from Michigan?

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    Default Re: So Carjackings are a thing these days... and so is shooting carjackers.

    Quote Originally Posted by SevenMilePete View Post
    Nope. From the same site

    The requirement of interstate or foreign commerce is met when a motor vehicle is moved in interstate or foreign commerce. In order to prove interstate or foreign commerce, the federal government only needs to prove that the motor vehicle traveled at some time in interstate or foreign commerce, such as when the motor vehicle is manufactured in one state and is transported across state lines to another state. The government does not need to prove that the motor vehicle was moving in interstate commerce at the time that it was carjacked. It only needs to prove that the motor vehicle was moving in interstate commerce at one time in the past.

    I guess if you buy a car in Illinois, and it was built in Detroit, it's not covered by federal law. Good luck finding one of those.
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