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    Default Re: PA Emergency Declarations to be voted on BY THE PEOPLE

    Quote Originally Posted by Handyandy View Post
    If I'm registered 3rd party am I allowed to vote in PA primaries for ballot measures?
    Why would you not want the ability to vote in the primaries? Even if the Republican party doesn't need my vote, I use it against the Dems so I switch it to suit my needs when necessary.
    If you're afraid of the people you represent, you might be doing something wrong

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    Default Re: PA Emergency Declarations to be voted on BY THE PEOPLE

    Quote Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter View Post
    Why would you not want the ability to vote in the primaries? Even if the Republican party doesn't need my vote, I use it against the Dems so I switch it to suit my needs when necessary.
    Because I don't subscribe to the bullshit duopoly and don't want to be associated with it.
    To disarm the people...[i]s the most effectual way to enslave them."

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    Default Re: PA Emergency Declarations to be voted on BY THE PEOPLE

    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    I'd like the GA to order a full audit on then funds spent by the Governor related to all this SoE's since he took office.
    i'd like to see this as well. also an audit of the fed, if it even matters anymore, the dollar is irreparably ruined.
    but we know the answer:
    "we have spent tens of millions of your money to exhaustively investigate ourselves and our finding is that we have spent your money effectively and with great prudence, continue to make all checks payable to 1234 treasury dept.
    P.S. donations always welcome"
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    Default Re: PA Emergency Declarations to be voted on BY THE PEOPLE

    Quote Originally Posted by internet troll View Post
    Good, sad to say but this is needed. Don*t know how the vote will go though.

    1. Primary elections have small turnouts
    2. People are often unaware of the questions and/or forget about the question.
    3. Often times questions are worded in ways that people don*t get the meaning of the question and answer it differently than they would if they understood the question
    4. Maybe people like the governor having that kind of power. I just don*t know anymore.
    These points could be beneficial or harmful. I think that conservatives/Republicans probably have better primary turnout, so perhaps more likely that such a measure has a chance. OTOH, these questions are often constructed in a way that seems to influence people to vote a certain way.

    Your #3 point is absolutely valid. People will usually vote for a positive statement and against a negative one. Consider:

    Require a state of emergency declared by the governor to be approved by the GA within 21 days for its continuance. Sound positive. Vote yes.

    OR

    Prevent the governor's ability to declare a state of emergency without GA approval within 21 days. Sounds negative. Vote no.

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    Default Re: PA Emergency Declarations to be voted on BY THE PEOPLE

    After the extreme abuse of power by an out of control governor this should be part of the PA Constitution so emergency powers cannot be abused for political and personal gain ever again.

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    Default Re: PA Emergency Declarations to be voted on BY THE PEOPLE

    I*m glad the Republicans did this. It*ll also take the decision out of the hands of SCOPA as well, assuming it passes. It*s pretty pathetic though that it requires a constitutional amendment to prevent the governor and the highest court in the state from sticking it to the citizens.
    “A Republic, if you can keep it.” - Benjamin Franklin

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    Default Re: PA Emergency Declarations to be voted on BY THE PEOPLE

    Quote Originally Posted by staylo View Post
    I*m glad the Republicans did this. It*ll also take the decision out of the hands of SCOPA as well, assuming it passes. It*s pretty pathetic though that it requires a constitutional amendment to prevent the governor and the highest court in the state from sticking it to the citizens.
    Yep, now let's get Act 77 fixed.
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    Default Re: PA Emergency Declarations to be voted on BY THE PEOPLE

    Quote Originally Posted by staylo View Post
    I*m glad the Republicans did this. It*ll also take the decision out of the hands of SCOPA as well, assuming it passes. It*s pretty pathetic though that it requires a constitutional amendment to prevent the governor and the highest court in the state from sticking it to the citizens.
    Party over country, state, and people in every way possible.

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    Default Re: PA Emergency Declarations to be voted on BY THE PEOPLE

    So obviously vote Yes, limit Wolf's endless state of emergency.

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    Default Re: PA Emergency Declarations to be voted on BY THE PEOPLE

    Quote Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter View Post
    Yep, now let's get Act 77 fixed.
    I got a personal call from my Rep yesterday part of the message was they were working on fixing it. I'm registered to vote as an independent, not 3rd party is voting on ballot questions permitted?

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