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  1. #1
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    Default HB - 451 Requiring 6 hours of Training by NRA Certified Instructorprior to LTCF

    I find this objectionable because on principle requiring training is in itself restrictive since the training required could be unobtainable. I also object because their are no alternatives, not police academy training, not military training, not even a "grandfthering" for those renewing LTCF.


    Regular Session 2021-2022
    House Bill 451

    Short Title: An Act amending Title 18 (Crimes and Offenses) of the Pennsylvania Consolidated Statutes, in firearms and other dangerous articles, further providing for licenses.
    Prime Sponsor: Representative DeLUCA
    Last Action: Referred to JUDICIARY, Feb. 8, 2021 [House]
    Memo: Requiring NRA Approved Training for Concealed Carry Permits

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    Default Re: HB - 451 Requiring 6 hours of Training by NRA Certified Instructorprior to LTCF

    No.

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    Default Re: HB - 451 Requiring 6 hours of Training by NRA Certified Instructorprior to LTCF

    What happens if the NRA is no longer a thing?
    Would this allow the NRA to decide what the training consists of?
    Why would anti-2A legislators leave this in the hands of the evil NRA?
    The Hostler

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    Default Re: HB - 451 Requiring 6 hours of Training by NRA Certified Instructorprior to LTCF

    Wonder how money NRA paid to have state require their training, and how much money the NRA would make per training session

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    Default Re: HB - 451 Requiring 6 hours of Training by NRA Certified Instructorprior to LTCF

    Ok, let's compromise. They can have this bill as long as we can have a bill that requires a test before voting.
    Rules are written in the stone,
    Break the rules and you get no bones,
    all you get is ridicule, laughter,
    and a trip to the house of pain.

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    Default Re: HB - 451 Requiring 6 hours of Training by NRA Certified Instructorprior to LTCF

    How about a test for elected officials.
    Wheaties aren't made out of the same stuff today as they were 40 years ago.

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    Default Re: HB - 451 Requiring 6 hours of Training by NRA Certified Instructorprior to LTCF

    These people need to piss up a rope already.

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    Default Re: HB - 451 Requiring 6 hours of Training by NRA Certified Instructorprior to LTCF

    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    Ok, let's compromise. They can have this bill as long as we can have a bill that requires a test before voting.
    Sounds like a fair trade.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sparks View Post
    How about a test for elected officials.
    Pre-election IQ minimums and post-election drug testing would benefit The People.
    If you're afraid of the people you represent, you might be doing something wrong

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    Default Re: HB - 451 Requiring 6 hours of Training by NRA Certified Instructorprior to LTCF

    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    Ok, let's compromise. They can have this bill as long as we can have a bill that requires a test before voting.
    I think this would be an effective tactic. Every time a bill is introduced that places a restriction on firearm ownership a Republican should introduce a similar bill that affects another right that the left holds dear. Something like a law requiring all news outlets submit supporting facts to an independent gov't agency before publication of a story. Then let them howl about it. Or voter ID and background checks in order to vote.

    What's that saying..."what's good for the goose is good for the gander". Need to point out the hypocrisy at every turn.

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    Default Re: HB - 451 Requiring 6 hours of Training by NRA Certified Instructorprior to LTCF

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodwanderer View Post
    These people need to piss up a rope already.
    I'd prefer that they pissed in a cup in order to keep their jobs. Just like some of the working class folks.

    Random drug testing for elected officials anyone?

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