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February 8th, 2021, 04:27 PM #31
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February 10th, 2021, 08:11 AM #32Active Member
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Re: Supreme Court will decide if police can enter home to seize guns without a warran
Sounds like the courts need to respect the community caretaking doctrine for citizens too. Let us get rid of dirty, lazy cops like this. I mean, how stupid do you have to be to consider someone a threat and seize their guns but leave them unattended with the EMTs, and not even investigate the medical professionals' findings or opinions?
They sound just as bad as the trooper I'm dealing with now who lied to court and even admitted in court to not performing a thorough investigation.I am not a lawyer
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February 10th, 2021, 03:51 PM #33Grand Member
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Re: Supreme Court will decide if police can enter home to seize guns without a warran
Aggies Coach Really ??? Take off the tin foil bro.
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February 10th, 2021, 04:58 PM #34
Re: Supreme Court will decide if police can enter home to seize guns without a warran
I think the MANY MILLIONS with a soft spot for crooked democrats is a far larger problem.
There are two kinds of guns. Those I have acquired, and those I hope to.
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February 10th, 2021, 05:52 PM #35
Re: Supreme Court will decide if police can enter home to seize guns without a warran
Lots wrong with this.
In the case of the impounded car, the police were in possession of the gun. It was in the car that they were in possession of, and they had possession subsequent to whatever violation got the car impounded. They had a legal obligation to secure the citizen's property.
In the case at hand...my first thought was wife consented, so everyone can fuck off. It is interesting that consent was negated because the police lied. I thought the police are allowed to lie to get what they want? But ok...without the wife's "legal" consent to take the weapons, I don't see how the police can argue that they were exercising any caretaking function given the other details. And unlike the car, they had no obligation to secure the property either.
All of that said...I wonder if it would make any difference if the police had to break into a safe to get the guns.
If this is upheld, I can see the police caretaking function being used to "take care of" any resources the govt decided someone is "hoarding" to the detriment of the "community".
It seems like the police look for any excuse, no matter how thin, to take guns away from gun owners and then leave it up to them to try to get them back. That's just wrong, and even a blind man should be able to see that.
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February 11th, 2021, 05:58 AM #36
Re: Supreme Court will decide if police can enter home to seize guns without a warran
What's left out of the OP is that the vehicle that was impounded was a police officer's personal vehicle. The officer had a DUI accident, and was in a coma in the hospital. On top of them going into the trunk to get the weapon, they also discovered evidence hat the comatose officer had aided his brother in a murder. Matt Christianson just posted a video on youtube about this yesterday and it's a pretty good quick summery of it. I'd imbed the video but I'm on a work computer and can't use sites like youtube.
"Sometimes reasonable men must do unreasonable things."- Marvin Heemeyer
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February 11th, 2021, 09:38 AM #37
Re: Supreme Court will decide if police can enter home to seize guns without a warran
Does anyone know what Mr Caniglia does for a living? I cannot find anything about his employment or past employment.
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February 11th, 2021, 12:57 PM #38
Re: Supreme Court will decide if police can enter home to seize guns without a warran
Not sure that changed my opinion. Car was taken into possession by the police into conjunction with working a crime. At a minimum, they need to inventory the property taken into possession, which includes the contents of the car. If they find evidence of a crime when doing so, hey, bonus! I think it easily passes the sniff test and the rationale for making it legit in no way applies to the current case.
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February 18th, 2021, 10:59 PM #39Senior Member
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Re: Supreme Court will decide if police can enter home to seize guns without a warran
I heard Gun Owners Foundation was filing Amicus Brief for Caniglia but haven't seen it yet.
I found this when searching for other Amicus Briefs filed.
https://michellawyers.com/caniglia-v-strom/
I probably shouldn't be shocked, but I am. Here are 3 supporting the The City of Cranston and Police Chief. I'll have to read them, but my guess is what someone else stated. Police don't need a warrant to steal your wife, dog, kids, or personal property if they haul your ass off to the hospital for some evaluation.
Amicus Brief of Iowa, Louisiana, Minnesota, Montana, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Texas, and Utah in Support of Respondents
Amicus Brief of The United States in Support of Respondents
Amicus Brief of The National Association of Counties, The National League of Cities, The U.S. Conference of Mayors, The International City/County Management Association, and The International Municipal Lawyers Association in Support of Respondents
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May 17th, 2021, 01:58 PM #40
Re: Supreme Court will decide if police can enter home to seize guns without a warran
Yay! SCOTUS rules community caretaking is not an excuse for warrantless searches.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinion...0-157_8mjp.pdf
https://www.abajournal.com/news/arti...ide-evaluation
https://www.kdrv.com/content/news/574437522.htmlThey even have minds but do not think. -Dov Fischer
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