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February 4th, 2021, 07:34 AM #31
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February 4th, 2021, 02:27 PM #32
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I'm not sure if Federal is still using a cannelure on their brass but here's what it looks like. I also found a couple of WCC cases marked 1976 with a cannelure around the case. I do know that cannelure is a weak spot and will rip through after reloading. People are free to do whatever they please but for me if the case has a cannelure it's "into the mud scum queen".
I don't have the three ruptured cases or they were lost to time. The first two that ruptured were unnoticeable while firing but the third one opened up and was excessively loud so I stopped shooting, checked the brass and low an behold case rupture along the cannelure. The cases in the pictures have been in my junk brass bucket for years and have been rendered inert if they were loaded or never reloaded after said incident of case rupturing. None were over loaded and were among thousands of reloaded cartridges that used the same components, powder amounts and primers. I did look through other calibres of empty pistol brass that I have, 9mm, 40 S&W and none of them with Federal head stamps have a cannelure nor do the other brands so but check your cases before you go through the pain in the ass and potential harm that I went through.
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February 4th, 2021, 02:36 PM #33
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Picture helps a lot thank you I will make sure to trash them to be safe.
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Re: Loadable Brands
Because of the way I reload, between resizing/decapping, cleaning the primer pockets with a brush and manual priming my brass gets handled and eyeballed a lot. If I had a progressive they would get eyeballed a lot less. I wonder if the cannalure is a foreign thing.
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February 4th, 2021, 06:39 PM #35
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I haven't seen the cannelure on anything produced recently. As far as I can tell it was used as bullet seating depth indicator during the manufacturing process. I also found some of that small pistol primer Blazer Brass I didn't know I had. I have a couple of buckets I toss brass into when I come home from the range and I forget what factory ammo I bought sometimes. I stopped reloading for a while but kept throwing my empties into the buckets. I found a whole bunch of 30/06 brass I knew I had from shooting a Savage 110 I used to own. I also have some 308 brass which I picked up after we shot a friend's M1A. There was some oddball range pick ups in there too like a few 270's and a 8x57. Back in the bucket those go.
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February 4th, 2021, 11:07 PM #36
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Also, If the brass looks like this, maybe pass on reloading it.
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As mentioned previously, the stepped 9mm cases are my biggest pet peeve. I despise it. I've encountered a few brands that have it, but it's been a while since I've processed brass from unknown sources so I can't recall which off the top of my head.
For clarification, the hazard isn't usually that the brass will fail during loading (though I have seen that happen), but that it may separate in the chamber leaving a ring of brass stuck where you won't easily see it. It will probably prevent your gun from going into battery and will require a tool to get it out, but if you are unlucky enough to experience this on a gun without an OOB safety (like an AK-V, for example) or worse, an open-bolt subgun... well, bad things can happen. Not a good time.
I sometimes use range pickup pistol brass that I collect after matches. Most people I shoot with reload as well, so we are all usually all pretty careful about bringing bad brass to a match, but sometimes that crap makes its way in or it's already on the ground before we start.
I find checking for the step is usually faster than analyzing the headstamp, so it is now part of my regular procedure anytime I am working with a new-to-me batch of pickup brass.I am not a lawyer.
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