84 million votes.......embarrassing fraud

[bigandy1966]

The ballots were on paper. Then scanned to count. Where are these 84 million ballots? It would make an enourmous stack of paper. Certainly a stack of lost/changed ballots would be filling warehouses somewhere.

Hint: the vote was fair and counted as such. How many fraud lawsuits were dismissed for lack of evidence? Over 60?

The only stealing of the vote attempted was by the now departed president.

Its over. Drink whatever tea you want, but I'm tired of this crap.

I guess you didn't see the video of the woman running the same stack of votes through the machine over and over and over and over............
or you are like a lot of these other rinos who only saw what they wanted t see

[nfafan]

TLR, forget votes; the conservative position cannot compete with the Santa Clause hand-outs the left offers the vast masses of lazy-fuck voters looking for free shit. The gunfire didn't happen in DC and it will never happen.

The best we can hope is that the USA becomes the next New Zealand pre-mosque massacre.

[lager1829]

Email from State Rep Dave Zimmerman

Attachment 141918

House Committee to Examine Election Inaccuracies
Constituents should be aware that the House State Government Committee will conduct a public hearing on Thursday, Jan. 28, at 1:30 p.m. to examine the SURE System, election management systems and related information technology. This hearing will be streamed live at PAHouseGOP.com:

The total number of voters who voted on Nov. 3, 2020, as recorded by the Department of State shows that 6,962,607 total ballots were reported as being cast, but the DoS/SURE system records indicate that only 6,760,230 total voters actually voted. Among the 6,962,607 total ballots cast, 6,931,060 total votes were counted in the presidential race, including all three candidates on the ballot and write-in candidates.

That is a difference of 202,377 more votes cast than voters voting, together with the 31,547 over- and under-votes in the presidential race, adds up to an alarming discrepancy of 170,830 votes, which is more than twice the reported statewide difference between the two major candidates for president of the United States.

While the majority of Pennsylvania voters * indeed the majority of all American voters * feel this is too little too late, I think there is some value at least to hear direct answers from some of the people who oversaw the election.

The committee will hear from and ask questions of Joe Kantz, chairman, Snyder County Commissioners and Snyder County Board of Elections; Timothy Benyo, chief clerk, Lehigh County Election Board; and Michael Anderson, director of Elections, Lebanon County Bureau of Elections/Voter Registration.

The committee also has scheduled these hearings listed below and they will also be streamed live at PAHouseGOP.com:

* Feb. 4: Review of Election Audits: Office of the Auditor General, 2% Audits, and Risk-Limiting Audits.
* Feb. 11: Voter registration.
* Feb. 18: Certification of voting machines.
* Feb. 25: Operation of voting machines with demonstrations.
* March 4: Mail-in and absentee ballots.
* March 11: Contracted vendors.
* March 18: County election day operations.
* March 25: Election integrity policies.
* April 1: Overview of how other states conduct elections.
* April 8: Stakeholders.
* April 15: Proposed election legislation and member testimony.
* April 22: Any further election matters.

[RobW]

Email from State Rep Dave Zimmerman

Attachment 141918

This is old news guys. From December:

"We are unclear as to what data the legislators used for this most recent *analysis.* But the only way to determine the number of voters who voted in November from the SURE system is through the vote histories. At this time, there are still a few counties that have not completed uploading their vote histories to the SURE system. These counties, which include Philadelphia, Allegheny, Butler and Cambria, would account for a significant number of voters. The numbers certified by the counties, not the uploading of voter histories into the SURE system, determines the ultimate certification of an election by the secretary.

"This obvious misinformation put forth by Rep. Ryan and others is the hallmark of so many of the claims made about this year*s presidential election. When exposed to even the simplest examination, courts at every level have found these and similar conspiratorial claims to be wholly without basis.

"To put it simply, this so-called analysis was based on incomplete data."

That doesn't mean there weren't any shenanigans and I think the open hearing is a good idea. I'm not accepting the rebuttal case at face value (hardly!) but you can't make assertions without addressing it, especially not five weeks after the fact. It smacks of opportunism.

[schmol]

well now, heres a start: https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/j...e11b5a3e8d5b87

[P89]

well now, heres a start: https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/j...e11b5a3e8d5b87

The sad part is the "Rule of law" shouldn't need a big win.
But now that we have it PA should be next.

[Walleye Hunter]

well now, heres a start: https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/j...e11b5a3e8d5b87

And there goes another log onto the fire.

[jesemd]

The point is being missed by everyone...

Almost 50% of the voting population believes the vote was not conducted 100% fairly and according to law.
About 5% of Republican politicians were willing to even back those voters and ask for an inquiry.
Therefore, 97.5% of lawmakers don't care about the will of the populous at all.

If they don't care about a presidential election, why would they listen about taxes, guns, schools, healthcare or anything else.

This has exposed that everyone in power answers to someone other than us. It is not expressly clear at this moment who that is. It may be some shadowy Emperor Palpatine like figure in a dark room or it may be a cabal of giant corporations, wall street, defense contractors, banks and big tech. Whoever it is, they do not care one little bit about the servant class.

Like Trump or hate him, what he exposed to the masses is exactly this. The people of the United States don't seem to be in control of their government any longer. We can sit and bicker amongst ourselves about how many fake ballots were counted in PA or whatever. While we do this, those in charge continue to consolidate power for themselves and make our wishes even less relevant.

The only thing to do is to vote everyone out. Everyone. Even those who seem to be on our side like Scott Perry. Replace them in the primary with honest citizens from all walks of life. They have to be beyond reproach. No skeletons in their closet that can be used to blackmail them into compliance. And they have to be wealthy enough to be able to resist being bought off by the powers in charge.

They have to go on TV and radio and social media daily and expose everything about the swamp. Every deal they were asked to cut. Every time they were asked to look the other way. Every bribe they were offered.

They should probably wear body armor 24/7 and have someone else start their car for them...

Good luck.

[Walleye Hunter]

The point is being missed by everyone...

Almost 50% of the voting population believes the vote was not conducted 100% fairly and according to law.
About 5% of Republican politicians were willing to even back those voters and ask for an inquiry.
Therefore, 97.5% of lawmakers don't care about the will of the populous at all.

If they don't care about a presidential election, why would they listen about taxes, guns, schools, healthcare or anything else.

This has exposed that everyone in power answers to someone other than us. It is not expressly clear at this moment who that is. It may be some shadowy Emperor Palpatine like figure in a dark room or it may be a cabal of giant corporations, wall street, defense contractors, banks and big tech. Whoever it is, they do not care one little bit about the servant class.

Like Trump or hate him, what he exposed to the masses is exactly this. The people of the United States don't seem to be in control of their government any longer. We can sit and bicker amongst ourselves about how many fake ballots were counted in PA or whatever. While we do this, those in charge continue to consolidate power for themselves and make our wishes even less relevant.

The only thing to do is to vote everyone out. Everyone. Even those who seem to be on our side like Scott Perry. Replace them in the primary with honest citizens from all walks of life. They have to be beyond reproach. No skeletons in their closet that can be used to blackmail them into compliance. And they have to be wealthy enough to be able to resist being bought off by the powers in charge.

They have to go on TV and radio and social media daily and expose everything about the swamp. Every deal they were asked to cut. Every time they were asked to look the other way. Every bribe they were offered.

They should probably wear body armor 24/7 and have someone else start their car for them...

Good luck.

That's what they now call a "near majority".

[gghbi]

The point is being missed by everyone...

Almost 50% of the voting population believes the vote was not conducted 100% fairly and according to law.
About 5% of Republican politicians were willing to even back those voters and ask for an inquiry.
Therefore, 97.5% of lawmakers don't care about the will of the populous at all.

If they don't care about a presidential election, why would they listen about taxes, guns, schools, healthcare or anything else.

This has exposed that everyone in power answers to someone other than us. It is not expressly clear at this moment who that is. It may be some shadowy Emperor Palpatine like figure in a dark room or it may be a cabal of giant corporations, wall street, defense contractors, banks and big tech. Whoever it is, they do not care one little bit about the servant class.

Like Trump or hate him, what he exposed to the masses is exactly this. The people of the United States don't seem to be in control of their government any longer. We can sit and bicker amongst ourselves about how many fake ballots were counted in PA or whatever. While we do this, those in charge continue to consolidate power for themselves and make our wishes even less relevant.

The only thing to do is to vote everyone out. Everyone. Even those who seem to be on our side like Scott Perry. Replace them in the primary with honest citizens from all walks of life. They have to be beyond reproach. No skeletons in their closet that can be used to blackmail them into compliance. And they have to be wealthy enough to be able to resist being bought off by the powers in charge.

They have to go on TV and radio and social media daily and expose everything about the swamp. Every deal they were asked to cut. Every time they were asked to look the other way. Every bribe they were offered.

They should probably wear body armor 24/7 and have someone else start their car for them...

Good luck.

Almost 50% sounds like one of those near-majorities to me...

edit: I see Walleye beat me by 4 minutes.