Going underground

[red dog]

Was just here thinking, I know kinda tough sometimes. With the upcoming troubles we are possibly gonna have who’s making plans. Such as hiding assets, own property or not. Live off the grid. For the life of me I can’t see how you can take advantage of ss or Medicare or other social programs that the elderly typically use and accomplish hiding. What kind of ideas or plans to hide as much as possible and still be a part of society do you have. Seems to me it’s gonna be a juggling act with compromise being at the front. I guess I’m looking for ideas and a general discussion on what’s feasible, strictly from a academic standpoint as we don’t want to teach how to break any laws.

[Walleye Hunter]

Was just here thinking, I know kinda tough sometimes. With the upcoming troubles we are possibly gonna have who*s making plans. Such as hiding assets, own property or not. Live off the grid. For the life of me I can*t see how you can take advantage of ss or Medicare or other social programs that the elderly typically use and accomplish hiding. What kind of ideas or plans to hide as much as possible and still be a part of society do you have. Seems to me it*s gonna be a juggling act with compromise being at the front. I guess I*m looking for ideas and a general discussion on what*s feasible, strictly from a academic standpoint as we don*t want to teach how to break any laws.

I'm wondering if it would be possible to put my assets into some sort of trust or something so it wasn't mine anymore. I already asked my financial guy about offshore accounts but he said that it's not the same as it was ten years ago.

[God's Country]

This should be in the emergency preparedness forum...........

I have no specific plans. Where am I going to hide? I'm reasonably prepared for whatever. I live in the sticks. The only way you're hiding assets is to deal strictly with cash or precious metals. How much can you hide that way? Not much in the big picture. Living off the grid isn't as simple as it seems. To most that means still having electricity, which is a huge investment that still requires maintenance.
I don't even concern myself with that beyond a generator. It's there for short term use, and prolonged issues with careful fuel management. And if there is a SHTF scenario it buys me time to collect my thoughts and prepare for really living off the grid.....permanently.

Owning land is a bonus to some extent, but requires maintenance, higher tax bills that I'm sure will be collected no matter what happens.

Be assured that if things ever get bad...real bad, everyone will be thinking the same thing at the same time. Most will fail. 300 million people can't hide.

[85MikeTPI]

I'm wondering if it would be possible to put my assets into some sort of trust or something so it wasn't mine anymore. I already asked my financial guy about offshore accounts but he said that it's not the same as it was ten years ago.

I was just thinking that when the firearms ban gets passed, violation of it would include forfeiture of any/all assets with audits going back several years.

So you can run, but you won't hide, they'll take it all for the Motherland..

[red dog]

I*m getting close to retirement and I*m not wealthy by today*s standards. I can be comfortable and do what I desire within reason. Like most I spent to many years scratching shit with the chickens to let some of it go to others. I earned it, it*s mine, I wanna keep it. It*s like most things if you know the rules you can play the game to your advantage. Was kinda looking for ideas from those that have been there or know better on how the system works.

[eatmydust]

Your best investment is arable land with potable water on it. After that, it's a matter of improving the land to fit your needs and wants. Without both decent land and water, your at the mercy of others.

[Walleye Hunter]

I am seriously considering moving somewhere else. It would probably mean a big change in my way of life as I do not want to move all of my shit, I'd probably have an auctioneer dispose of it in one day and collect my share. There are expat communities all over the globe and moving to one of them might even be in the future.

[Stickler]

I often think of getting an off-grid homestead... the more I read the more it seems that PA really hates people building anything off-grid. I was researching just getting an RV or something and putting it on some land-- apparently that is not possible either (if you get caught). It is also really hard to find property (is there a place like zilow) that helps you find some land for a camp? Set up a small home, garden, near a river for water, far enough away from people to be let alone?

I agree.. there should be a forum on this. I am not a "prepper"...just a wannabe hermit.

[Rural Ruger]

...unless you're some war lord in a 3rd world shit hole.

That's an option? Why didnt my guidance counselor tell me these things in high school?!?

*Runs to check if he has enough firepower to qualify as lord of Shit-hole-ia*

[R L Suehr]

That's an option? Why didnt my guidance counselor tell me these things in high school?!?

*Runs to check if he has enough firepower to qualify as lord of Shit-hole-ia*

Gotta weigh all options anyway.