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    Default Re: Slew of new 2021 gun bills put in this week.

    I've been thinking a lot about EFAD by Bracken the past couple months.

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    Default Re: Slew of new 2021 gun bills put in this week.

    Quote Originally Posted by crapshoot View Post
    You're right. Their foot is on the gas full throttle right now and they won't let up. unlike the GOP who sat with their thumbs up their asses for 2 fukin years when Trump took office and did absolutely nothing other than REEEEEE over ORANGE MAN BAD, the dimms will ram as much legislation through the house and senate as they can before anyone has a chance do jack shit about it.

    Look how fast the fbi and dhs took to track down the so called "domestic terrorists" that were in the capitol last wednesday.

    How much effort did those 2 agencies put into tracking down pantifa and blm "protestors" that burnt looted and murdered for over half of last year? Hell they pushed back against going into portland to stop the "mostly peaceful protesters" from torching a federal courthouse. And half the country are assisting these 3 letter agencies track down people from last week from doxxing them on social media.

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    Which is why I am advocating pressing our foot(feet) on top so they cannot back off the throttle once they go too far. Drive it off the cliff. Show the country what they really want.
    FUCK BIDEN

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    Default Re: Slew of new 2021 gun bills put in this week.

    The reason they are so scared of Trump rallies, why they desperately want to try to ram through a 25th amendment deal or impeachment, is because they KNOW they cheated, they KNOW it's going to come out in a way that even ordinary couch potatoes will recognize sometime in the next 2-4 years (nobody can keep that kind of secret), and they KNOW Trump doesn't plan to go away. Nightmare scenario for both sides of the uniparty is that he makes another run for 2024, because right now, I personally think he may. Dude seems like a grudge kind of guy.

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    Default Re: Slew of new 2021 gun bills put in this week.

    Quote Originally Posted by EFK View Post
    The reason they are so scared of Trump rallies, why they desperately want to try to ram through a 25th amendment deal or impeachment, is because they KNOW they cheated, they KNOW it's going to come out in a way that even ordinary couch potatoes will recognize sometime in the next 2-4 years (nobody can keep that kind of secret), and they KNOW Trump doesn't plan to go away. Nightmare scenario for both sides of the uniparty is that he makes another run for 2024, because right now, I personally think he may. Dude seems like a grudge kind of guy.
    It's going to be tough for him to make any run in 2024 unless he builds out his own platforms after he's out of office. The precedent being set right now is Trump will soon be deplatformed like Alex Jones and wiped away unable to have a voice.

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    Default Re: Slew of new 2021 gun bills put in this week.

    I think he can manage to re-platform himself a lot better than Alex Jones could. I think he'll make it a point of pride.

    I'm one of those that truly, truly believes that Obama rudely mocking him at the correspondents dinner - was it 2011? - played a large part in him deciding he was going to be the god damn president.

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    Default Re: Slew of new 2021 gun bills put in this week.

    The first is under assault by the cronies in big tech and backed up by the politicians. The 2nd is sure to fall also.

    Welcome to the United Soviet States of America, comrades.

    The question is what the hell are we going to or are able to do about it? Only time will tell as the pieces are moved on the board.

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    Default Re: Slew of new 2021 gun bills put in this week.

    What a time to be alive

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    Another depressing issue which will greatly impact a citizen's ability to keep their 2nd Amendment is the push by the new "Administration" to have DC and Puerto Rico be admitted as States in the Union. That would be 4 more liberal Senators and it could be decades before we would ever see a Republican lead Senate. I know we all see there will a fight on many fronts.

    The easiest path for them to control guns is to tax to the moon.... ammo. Lead delivery systems don't mean anything without the means to supply them affordably. It could be crafted along the same line as the cigarette tax and a huge pile of lemmings would jump onboard. I hope I'm wrong, but Obummer was already going this direction before he left office. If the price goes to $4 or $5 per round, not too many average people would be able to afford shooting as a hobby.

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    Default Re: Slew of new 2021 gun bills put in this week.

    As batshit nuts as I think 'they' are, there's no way I see DC or PR becoming recognized states before the midterms. I know Manchin (for one) would definitely vote against it (otherwise he'd never be able to go home again) and *I think* there might be another dem senator or two left who aren't all aboard the jim jones kool aid train. Call me Mr. Optimism.

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    Default Re: Slew of new 2021 gun bills put in this week.

    Well here’s some forced PUBIC registration, mandated training, mandated phycological check, and an $800.00 fee as well as other things just to own a firearm.

    Ohh and no grandfathering.


    From the FPC which I urge everyone to support.

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    [size=12pt] Bill/Issue: U.S. HR 127 - Gun licensing, Registration & Partial Ammo Ban

    Position: Strongly Opposed

    Author: Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX-18)

    Summary: Establishes a nationwide gun registry that is searchable by the general public, mandates licensing to own or possess a firearm and requires a psychological evaluation prior to obtaining such a license, and institutes magazine & gun bans.

    The bill text is finally out and HR 127 is worse than we were even speculating.

    HR 127 establishes a federal firearms registration system that will be accessible by federal, state, and local governments, including the military - even the GENERAL PUBLIC! The system will track the make, model, and serial number of all firearms, their owners, the dates they were acquired, and where they are being stored.

    You read that right. HR 127 would make public your most private information to anti-gunners who can then dox, harass or even attack you while knowing full well every intimate detail of your self-defense systems.

    The system will also track firearms loans, including the ID of the loan recipient and for how long it is being loaned. This bill applies retroactively, so current firearms owners will have three months to supply their gun information to the federal government from the bill’s effective date.

    HR 127 also establishes a federal licensing requirement. Applicants will have to be at least 21, undergo a NICS check, complete a psychological evaluation, complete 24 hours of firearms training, and pay $800 for firearms insurance from the government.

    TRANSLATION: You not only have to PAY the government for the privilege of owning guns already in your possession; you also have to convince an anti-gunner that you deserve to keep your rights!

    For the psychological evaluation, a licensed psychologist will interview individuals’ spouses and at least two other family members or associates to “further determine the state of the mental emotional, and relational stability of the individual in relation to firearms.” Licenses will be denied to individuals hospitalized for issues such as depressive episodes; no duration for license disability is specified, and it does not matter whether the individual sought help voluntarily.

    And who gets the say in whether you can exercise your fundamental rights: the Attorney General, who will in all likelihood be Merrick Garland - an anti-gun extremist previously nominated to the Supreme Court by Barack Obama.

    HR 127 will also establish licensing requirements for the display of antique firearms and for the right to possess “military-style weapons.” To display an antique, applicants have to prove they own an antique firearm, describe how they will display it, and demonstrate that they have “safe” storage for it. To possess a “military-style weapon”, applicants will have to undergo 24 hours of safety and live fire training. It is unclear whether this training is in addition to the base 24 hours of training required to possess firearms and ammunition. “Military-style weapons” are defined as they are under assault weapons bans like those in California and New Jersey - weapons are identified by name or because they possess two or more features found on commonly owned, modern semiautomatic firearms such as an adjustable stock, pistol grip, etc.

    Finally, HR 127 also criminalizes the possession of “large-capacity magazines” (those carrying greater than 10 rounds) and “ammunition that is 0.50 caliber or greater.”

    Presently, there is no grandfathering clause in this legislation. Meaning you will have to choose between keeping your magazines and being fined and sent to prison.. potentially for decades!

    Importantly, it would be IMPOSSIBLE to comply with this legislation. The bill doesn't even specify how any of these measures will be implemented. Instead, it tasks the Attorney General with creating systems for enforcement while still holding gun owners to ironclad compliance dates.

    The government will not be able to process hundreds of millions of firearm registration petitions, and does not have the capacity to interview tens of millions of gun owners before the compliance deadline. Meaning YOU will be left holding the bag due to the government's incompetence!

    We've seen from California's example, where the DOJ's AW registration website crashed and yet gun owners were still placed on the hook, that these systems have not and will not work.

    Except this time, Rep. Jackson Lee wants you to face decades in prison and hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines for failing to comply with an unconstitutional and impossible-to-comply-with law.

    Calling Representative Jackson Lee’s legislation oppressive would be an understatement. HR 127 is an affront to individual liberty, an assault on working-class gun owners, and violates the most basic principles of the Constitution and our Republic.

    Please use FPC's Take Action form below and take action NOW. Tell Rep. Jackson Lee that her treasonous bill will not be tolerated and that she must WITHDRAW it immediately!

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