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  1. #21
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    Default Re: AR modifications to turn them into 'non assault' rifles

    Quote Originally Posted by Emptymag View Post
    You can't plan in advance for restrictions that have yet to be imagined.

    In other words, there are no answers to "compliance" without knowing what is compliant.
    Just because something was compliant in the past (or even NOW), there is NO expectation that said compliance will still apply at a later date.
    Yep the thing with an AWB is the definition of AW is arbitrary. They can make one definition, then say a "compliant" gun is exploiting a loophole, then try to change the definition to make it noncompliant the next time around.

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    Default Re: AR modifications to turn them into 'non assault' rifles

    Get some camo.
    https://www.gunskins.com/products/ar...31382716514417

    Ta-da, it's a hunting rifle.

  3. #23
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    Default Re: AR modifications to turn them into 'non assault' rifles

    Quote Originally Posted by crapshoot View Post
    they can pass all the laws they want. they don't mean anything unless you comply.
    This^^^

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    Default Re: AR modifications to turn them into 'non assault' rifles

    Quote Originally Posted by MMH View Post
    Based on the events of Jan. 6, it is reasonable to expect more gun control laws.

    Suppose a AR was 'modified' so that it was no longer a 'assault rifle'. Specifically
    - fixed stock
    - an upper that is converted to pump action (do not even have gas port on the barrel)

    All my magazines only hold 7 or 10 rounds anyway (458 SOCOM).

    Or, do think that the gubmint would redefine constructive intent.

    EDIT
    The key would be converting to pump. Most 'assault rifle' bans/restrictions target semi-autos. Do no believe that the lower receiver is registered as a semi (someone correct me if I am wrong). So if convert it to a manual firearm, do not have to 'turn it in' because it is not longer an 'assualt rifle'. The upper is unregistered, so you can keep it, just not on lower. Kind of pistol upper/rifle lower...
    Wouldn't it be better to get rid of those that make these kinds of laws rather than play games modifying a functioning firearm? The founders expressly intended us to use the tools they gave us to do so.
    Corruption is the default behavior of government officials. JPC

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    Default Re: AR modifications to turn them into 'non assault' rifles

    Quote Originally Posted by eagleclaw View Post
    The only one burying their head in the sand is you. They have been trying to pass a AWB ever since the Clinton ban expired. We can sit there like you and complain about how screwed over we are or we can come up with ways to minimize the damage or even repel it altogether. In 2016 I heard a president say how he was going to build a big beautiful wall at the border and have Mexico pay for it. He also said that it was the end of Obama care should he get elected. Didn't work out so well did it.
    Ok. I'm sitting here complaining.

    Please list the ways you have implemented to minimize or repel the damage.

    I anxiously await your ideas. I've been in this fight for 50 years.

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    Default Re: AR modifications to turn them into 'non assault' rifles

    I can see things going the other way, if they ban ar's in current config and treat them as NFA, i could imagine lots of people 3d printing / milling drop in auto sears.....

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    Default Re: AR modifications to turn them into 'non assault' rifles

    Here's the only acceptable mod the democrats want.

    Rules are written in the stone,
    Break the rules and you get no bones,
    all you get is ridicule, laughter,
    and a trip to the house of pain.

  8. #28
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    Default Re: AR modifications to turn them into 'non assault' rifles

    This is what they want to help them more efficiently melt them into Biden statues.

    2014 - Connecticut gun owners line up to register guns and magazines

    I called to check my ZIP CODE!....DY-NO-MITE!!!

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    Default Re: AR modifications to turn them into 'non assault' rifles

    Does this apply to bodyguards?

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    Default Re: AR modifications to turn them into 'non assault' rifles

    Quote Originally Posted by MMH View Post
    Based on the events of Jan. 6, it is reasonable to expect more gun control laws.

    Suppose a AR was 'modified' so that it was no longer a 'assault rifle'. Specifically
    - fixed stock
    - an upper that is converted to pump action (do not even have gas port on the barrel)

    All my magazines only hold 7 or 10 rounds anyway (458 SOCOM).

    Or, do think that the gubmint would redefine constructive intent.

    EDIT
    The key would be converting to pump. Most 'assault rifle' bans/restrictions target semi-autos. Do no believe that the lower receiver is registered as a semi (someone correct me if I am wrong). So if convert it to a manual firearm, do not have to 'turn it in' because it is not longer an 'assualt rifle'. The upper is unregistered, so you can keep it, just not on lower. Kind of pistol upper/rifle lower...
    Quote Originally Posted by Emptymag View Post
    You can't plan in advance for restrictions that have yet to be imagined.

    In other words, there are no answers to "compliance" without knowing what is compliant.
    Just because something was compliant in the past (or even NOW), there is NO expectation that said compliance will still apply at a later date.
    OP, I am sorry. I know I'm being a dick, but the country is on the verge of burning to the ground, and you are wondering about complying with hypothetical what if's. Hell Biden has already stated that he wants to add your MSR (Modern Sporting Rifle) to the NFA.

    Emptymag had the most diplomatic response to your question, below is mine

    "It seems that the Constitution is more or less guidelines than actual rules"
    My feedback: http://forum.pafoa.org/showthread.php?t=305685

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