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    Default Obama's aunt is an illegal alien

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    WASHINGTON - Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama said Saturday he didn't know his aunt was living in the United States illegally and believes that laws covering the situation should be followed.

    The Associated Press found that Obama's aunt had been instructed to leave the country four years ago by an immigration judge who rejected her request for asylum from her native Kenya. The woman, Zeituni Onyango, is living in public housing in Boston and is the half-sister of Obama's late father.

    A statement given to the AP by Obama's campaign said, "Senator Obama has no knowledge of her status but obviously believes that any and all appropriate laws be followed." Traveling with Obama in Nevada, campaign strategist David Axelrod declined to elaborate on the statement, but said: "I think people are suspicious about stories that surface in the last 72 hours of a national campaign."

    An adviser to Republican John McCain's campaign, Mark Salter, said he had no comment on the reports about Obama's relative. "It's a family matter," Salter said.

    The campaign said it was returning $260 that Onyango had contributed in small increments to Obama's presidential bid over several months. Federal election law prohibits foreigners from making political donations. Onyango listed her employer as the Boston Housing Authority and last gave $5 on Sept. 19.
    Onyango, 56, is part of Obama's large paternal family, with many related to him by blood whom he never knew growing up.

    Obama's father, Barack Obama Sr., left the future presidential nominee when the boy was 2, and they reunited only once — for a monthlong visit when Obama was 10. The elder Obama lived most of his life in Kenya, where he fathered seven other children with three other wives. He died in a car crash in 1982.

    Obama was raised for the most part by his mother and her parents in Hawaii. He first met his father's side of the family when he traveled to Africa 20 years ago. He referred to Onyango as "Auntie Zeituni" when describing the trip in his memoir, saying she was "a proud woman."

    Obama's campaign said he had seen her a few times since that meeting, beginning with a return trip to Kenya with his future wife, Michelle, in 1992. Onyango visited the family in Chicago on a tourist visa at Obama's invitation about nine years ago, the campaign said, stopping to visit friends on the East Coast before returning to Kenya.

    She attended Obama's swearing-in to the U.S. Senate in 2004, but campaign officials said Obama provided no assistance in getting her a tourist visa and doesn't know the details of her stay. The campaign said he last heard from her about two years ago when she called saying she was in Boston, but he did not see her there.

    Few details from case
    Onyango's refusal to leave the country would represent an administrative, noncriminal violation of immigration law, meaning such cases are handled outside the criminal court system. Estimates vary, but many experts believe there are more than 10 million such immigrants in the U.S.

    The AP could not immediately reach Onyango for comment. When a reporter went to her home Friday night, no one answered the door. A neighbor said she was often not home on weekends. Onyango did not immediately return telephone and written messages left at her home.

    Onyango was instructed to leave the country by a U.S. immigration judge who denied her asylum request, a person familiar with the matter told the AP. This person spoke on condition of anonymity because no one was authorized to discuss Onyango's case.

    The matter was referred to the Department of Homeland Security Inspector General and the ICE Office of Professional Responsibility to determine if there were violations in publicly disclosing an individual's information, NBC News reported.

    It was unclear why her request was rejected in 2004. A spokeswoman for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Kelly Nantel, said the government does not comment on an individual's citizenship status or immigration case.
    Information about the deportation case was disclosed and confirmed by two separate sources, one a federal law enforcement official. The information they made available is known to officials in the federal government, but the AP could not establish whether anyone at a political level in the Bush administration or in the McCain campaign had been involved in its release.

    Directive may reflect political sensitivity
    Onyango's case — coming to light just days before the presidential election — led to an unusual nationwide directive within Immigrations and Customs Enforcement requiring that any deportations before Tuesday's election be approved at least at the level of the agency's regional directors, the U.S. law enforcement official told the AP.

    The directive suggests that the administration is sensitive to the political implications of Onyango's case coming to light so close to the election.

    The East African nation has been fractured by violence in recent years, including a period of two months of bloodshed after December 2007 that killed 1,500 people.

    In Boston, Lydia Agro, communications director for the Housing Authority, said Onyango had been screened and approved for public housing as an "eligible non-citizen" when she moved in in 2003. She said the authority is not notified of deportation orders and did not know Onyango was related to Obama until two days ago.

    Agro said the authority doesn't believe it needs to take any action to remove Onyango from public housing despite the order.

    She said that although Onyango entered the system under federal guidelines in a federal development, she now lives in a state-funded development. State law forbids the authority from even asking Onyango about her immigration status. That means the federal deportation order has no bearing on Onyango's eligibility for the state-funded project where she lives, Agro said.

    "We're not convinced that the deportation decision will affect her housing at all right now," she said.

    "She's been a very good resident," she added.
    Yep....he had no idea that he aunt was here illegally....
    Didn't know his pastor of 20 years was a raving racist, either.

    So is he a liar, f***ing blind, or both?

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    Quote Originally Posted by synergy View Post
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    Yep....he had no idea that he aunt was here illegally....
    Didn't know his pastor of 20 years was a raving racist, either.

    So is he a liar, f***ing blind, or both?
    both.
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    Default Re: Obama's aunt is an illegal alien

    Big Fricken Deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by autoMATTic View Post
    Big Fricken Deal.
    so I guess you're for illegal immigration? heh...
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    Quote Originally Posted by andrewjs18 View Post
    so I guess you're for illegal immigration? heh...
    No, not for illegal immigration, just tired of everyone blowing everything out of proportion when it comes to anything to do with Obama. Election fatigue, gotta stop reading all of this shit.

    And no, I am not voting for Obama, or McCain for that matter, although just about anyone would be a vast improvement over the last 8 years of king George.

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    Quote Originally Posted by autoMATTic View Post
    No, not for illegal immigration, just tired of everyone blowing everything out of proportion when it comes to anything to do with Obama. Election fatigue, gotta stop reading all of this shit.

    And no, I am not voting for Obama, or McCain for that matter, although just about anyone would be a vast improvement over the last 8 years of king George.
    blowing out of proportion about Obama? When's the last time you've watched the news?

    Palin is taking a beating 150X worse than Obama...
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    Quote Originally Posted by andrewjs18 View Post
    blowing out of proportion about Obama? When's the last time you've watched the news?

    Palin is taking a beating 150X worse than Obama...
    Yeah, sick of ALL of it, but we were talking about Obama not Palin in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrewjs18 View Post
    so I guess you're for illegal immigration? heh...
    I think his point was it shouldn't be an issue insofar as the election. A women he hardly knows and whom he has no control over just doesn't mean anything where his political policies are concerned. Please, don't take this as my approval of illegals. She is and should be deported. I don't support many, if not most, of Obama's policies and believe, like any politician, he's a fine liar....it's part of the game. I don't see how this situation has any bearing on the election or Obama's thinking. Please, if you see it differently, tell me why. I'm always up for learning new things and other ways to see things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ErSwnn View Post
    I think his point was it shouldn't be an issue insofar as the election. A women he hardly knows and whom he has no control over just doesn't mean anything where his political policies are concerned. Please, don't take this as my approval of illegals. She is and should be deported. I don't support many, if not most, of Obama's policies and believe, like any politician, he's a fine liar....it's part of the game. I don't see how this situation has any bearing on the election or Obama's thinking. Please, if you see it differently, tell me why. I'm always up for learning new things and other ways to see things.
    Exactly. Thank you.

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    Default Re: Obama's aunt is an illegal alien

    She contributed $260 to his campaign.

    Worse yet she's living in public housing stealing our tax $!

    I'm curious as to what action will be taken now. Will she be deported? I can just see the INS showing up hauling her out in front of cameras.
    Good or bad for either campaign?
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