Recommend a shooting rest, please

**Walleye Hunter** · December 27th, 2020, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by Brick

There's always this. https://www.caldwellshooting.com/res...-2/336677.html

Or you could get an automobile scissors jack and strap a Caldwell front bag to the top and use that as a front. Rear could be any bag or even your weak arm.

I like your innovative thoughts, you could do well in Alaska.

**Brick** · December 27th, 2020, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter

I like your innovative thoughts, you could do well in Alaska.

Thanks but it isn't my idea. It was originated (afaik) by Fred Cornell of Sayre PA. Only he embellished it a bit with a flat piece welded to the top of jack to support the front bag and a flat piece on the bottom, of the jack for stability and a knob on the screw bolt to make turning and adjusting easier.

I've always been intrigued by the Sitka region.

**lager1829** · December 27th, 2020, 08:56 PM

We used small bags of shotgun shot on the shooting table at 100 yds to sight for deer. Dad could get 1" groups with his Rem 700. Me, 1-1/2 to 2 with the 760.

**Misery Loves Shotguns** · December 27th, 2020, 09:10 PM

A lead sled would work for my rifle but I don't know how I'd use it for my Beretta. I've got sand bags, a shooter's stick thing, and some foam wedges but I don't like any of those. The issue is the height more than the stability; I want to be able to adjust it up or down without having to go into my car and get a bunch of crap to pile up.

Originally Posted by Hawk

I kind of always chuckle when I see guys at the range using those type of rests. What's the point of it? Where does the skill come into play if the rifle is "locked" into a rest and all you have to do is pull the trigger?

At least with these types of rests you still have to use some skill because the rifle isn't "locked" into a front and rear rest.
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Originally Posted by Hawk

Not an uncommon point of view. However, it's been my experience that many guys use them all the time, not just for adjusting sights. In addition, it's also been my experience that once you move off the rest you will still need to adjust POA to POI due to the human input now being introduced when off the rest.

At most I'll rest the rifle on a range bag for it's first sight in (typically 200 yards) once I'm close to my desired grouping I move off the bench and see how it groups from prone, sitting, standing and make adjustments from there.

I'm afraid long gone are the days of the young guys learning and mastering marksmanship. Less then 10 years ago we would have a full line (20 shooters) for my clubs Civilian Marksmanship Program matches. Today that number is 5 or 6 shooters.

It seems now-a-days most guys are on the range are either plinking, spraying and praying, or running and gunning and would have a difficult time hitting a man size target at 200 yards from the standing position.

You seem like the stubborn type that prefers to do things the hard way but maybe if you had one of these, you'd have an easier time patting yourself on the back

**DucatiRon** · December 27th, 2020, 10:42 PM

Like I said earlier. The MTM pistol rest has done me fine for years now. If you want to borrow it let me know.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000KOTN9U..._Cxu6Fb8TZ8ZYS

**Misery Loves Shotguns** · December 28th, 2020, 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by DucatiRon

Like I said earlier. The MTM pistol rest has done me fine for years now. If you want to borrow it let me know.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000KOTN9U..._Cxu6Fb8TZ8ZYS

That looks promising but prime delivery estimate is late february ... damn. Yeah, I'll let you know next time I shoot and I'll try it if you're not using it. Thanks.

**DucatiRon** · December 28th, 2020, 12:08 AM

Your welcome to it anytime.

**Hawk** · December 28th, 2020, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by Misery Loves Shotguns

You seem like the stubborn type that prefers to do things the hard way but maybe if you had one of these, you'd have an easier time patting yourself on the back

No need to throw insults at me for an honest post. The "hard way" is hard, so many people will choose the easier path.

Are you a member of PMSC? If so, you're welcome to join us on most Sundays (in the warm weather) at 10 AM on our rifle range.
We would be happy to help you with some marksmanship training/tips.

What kind of rifle are you shooting? From your original post all you say is "30 round 7.62x39 magazines" which could be an AK, SKS, or an AR.
Are you having issues sighting it in? What distances are you shooting? Are you using handloads or factory ammo?

Hawk,

**Brick** · December 28th, 2020, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by DucatiRon

Like I said earlier. The MTM pistol rest has done me fine for years now. If you want to borrow it let me know.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000KOTN9U..._Cxu6Fb8TZ8ZYS

Funny thing about that! I've never had any luck using a rest for handgun. When I chrono loads from a bench I just rest my arms on the bench and fire. Zeroing a pistol I generally do from either a standing unsupported offhand or strict "bullseye" type offhand. Red dot or iron sights, but I always wear my prescription reading glasses when zeroing so I can see the front sight or dot correctly!