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    Applicants for an LTCF in Lackawanna County have to come to the front door of the courthouse, a deputy will come to the door and you request an application. You then fill it out, bring it back the the front door and the deputy will then put your completed application, which needs to be sealed in an envelope, into a lock box. Your application will eventually be processed and you will be called to come and pay, get your picture taken, and be given your LTCF. My concern is the following sentence in the article, "Any application that is not completed in full or placed in a sealed envelope will not processed and will be destroyed, the sheriff*s office said." Once the sheriff's office accepts an application, are they obligated to approve or deny or can they destroy an application because it is not in a "sealed envelope", or is missing any bit of information, even trivial things like the zip code of a reference or something else trivial?
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    I didn't read the article, but the sheriff is not allowed to summarily destroy applications and then say nothing. He's required to send you a certified mail response, not just magically make your application vanish.
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    Sounds like something the democrats would do.
    Think about it, every application was not filled out correctly

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogey1 View Post
    Sounds like something the democrats would do.
    Think about it, every application was not filled out correctly
    Democrat voters who didn't fill out their mail-in ballots correctly were allowed to come back and "fix" them, weren't they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fortytwo View Post
    Democrat voters who didn't fill out their mail-in ballots correctly were allowed to come back and "fix" them, weren't they?
    Probably, and twice.

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    No. It is not legal. The second an application is handed to a member of the department it is received and starts the 45 day clock. Not when ever they get around to getting it out of some bin.



    Nor is an envelope a requirement for a LTCF. As already noted, destroying LTCF is also a crime. Id suggest this might be a lovely time to have sheriffs in Pennsylvania learn they no longer have qualified immunity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAMedic=F|A= View Post
    ... this might be a lovely time to have sheriffs in Pennsylvania learn they no longer have qualified immunity.
    When did that happen?
    I am not a lawyer

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    The situation is being resolved this week. Expect to see the county sheriff's website updated, accordingly
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    Quote Originally Posted by SigForLife View Post
    The situation is being resolved this week. Expect to see the county sheriff's website updated, accordingly
    Sounds good, thanks for the update.
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    "Cives Arma Ferant"

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