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November 29th, 2020, 12:42 AM #11
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November 29th, 2020, 12:48 AM #12Junior Member
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Re: Interesting New Lawsuit Filed In PaState Court by PA GOP Challenge mail votes
Not the same suit, but the PA 3-day extension was challenged in October and did go to the Supreme Court, where it was decided 4-4 prior to seating Justice Barrett, so the PA Supreme Court ruling stood. However, Justice Alito then ordered late ballots to be segregated by all counties, which was not done. It remains to be seen what will be decided on appeal, the issue is not dead. And we have 9 Justices again.
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November 29th, 2020, 07:41 AM #13
Re: Interesting New Lawsuit Filed In PaState Court by PA GOP Challenge mail votes
Im not sure if this is the same thing bust since when does the AG pass PA consstitutional laws?
Didn't shapiro just off the cuff say all this mail in voting bullshit was above board and they could basically do what ever they please in regards to rules and extensions?
then this would (FINALLY) be a challenge to those rules these cheating scam artists wrote in crayon on the PA laws.Derrion Albert was my Hero.
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November 29th, 2020, 07:54 AM #14
Re: Interesting New Lawsuit Filed In PaState Court by PA GOP Challenge mail votes
I understand what you're saying, but if they acted beyond their legal authority, and the law is invalid, shouldn't the deadline be invalid also? It's a little like passing a law that says "No more semi-automatics, and we really mean it, so SCOPA and SCOTUS aren't allowed to reverse us."
Just because the text says it doesn't make it irreversible, and I guarantee you if a different course would have benefitted the other party, there would be further movement from the courts.Get your "Guns Save Lives" stickers today! PM for more info.
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November 29th, 2020, 01:50 PM #15Banned
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Re: Interesting New Lawsuit Filed In PaState Court by PA GOP Challenge mail votes
There isn*t even a really good case to be made that the legislature ran afoul of the Constitution. Plus, basically every Republican who is currently doing the dance for this crap voted for Act 77.
The low-information crowd doesn*t like this: Act 77 was passed overwhelmingly by both Republican caucuses in the legislature, who recognize the advantages of being able to track whether someone got a ballot and sent it back and to be able to precisely electioneer that population year in and year out. It eliminated the straight ticket. Mike Kelly and Sean Parnell both told people to vote with it. And a sane reading of the Pa Const suggests it was perfectly legal which is why they didn*t challenge this before laches attached.
(Put simply, sane republicans wanted it, and then came Trump. Doug Mastriano voted for Act 77)
There is a reason why no real lawyers will get near this stuff.
Google *equity* (in a legal sense) and have a read. Parnell had standing when he was on the primary ballot. He waited until he lost and then attempted to ratfuck millions in the Pa electorate upon losing because the angry mob believes this stuff and he wants to ensure lots of buzz for his renewed TV career.
So, it*s likely not even a thing. If it is, all these people voted for it or encouraged people to mail in their votes, and only now have decided it is *unconstitutional* because Trump. It*s weak performance art.
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November 29th, 2020, 03:28 PM #16
Re: Interesting New Lawsuit Filed In PaState Court by PA GOP Challenge mail votes
Ya know, I'm not a Trump fanboy, but I had accepted the whole "Constitution controls" argument....until I looked it up read it for myself (just now). By my reading, the PA Constitution clearly gives the power to the legislature, so Act 77 WAS legal, and their argument is wrong. I'd be open to more clarification on why I might be wrong, but the Constitutional wording seems pretty clear to me.
That doesn't mean I like what they did, but I don't see an argument for them doing it improperly.Get your "Guns Save Lives" stickers today! PM for more info.
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November 29th, 2020, 06:38 PM #17Banned
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Re: Interesting New Lawsuit Filed In PaState Court by PA GOP Challenge mail votes
That is the sane take, and in fact where it would’ve landed had they actually had an honest interest in any of this (I believe it would’ve been found Constitutional had Parnell, primary candidate, lodged a timely challenge and whilst not telling people to vote by mail) Parnell, particularly, doesn’t. He already has the “Parnell for senate” stuff registered in DNS and this is performance art for those who don’t know better. It’s about being a hero to the uninformed to trump up his run for Toomey’s seat.
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November 29th, 2020, 06:51 PM #18
Re: Interesting New Lawsuit Filed In PaState Court by PA GOP Challenge mail votes
I am not at all versed or familiar with our state Constitution but is this excerpt from the decision not accurate? What part of our Constitution grants the Legislator the power to change the process?
Petitioners allege that Article VII, section 14 of the Pennsylvania Constitution provides two exclusive mechanisms by which a qualified elector may cast his or her vote in an election: (1) by submitting his or her vote in propria persona at the polling place on election day; and (2) by submitting an absentee ballot, butonly if the qualified voter satisfies the conditions precedent to meet the requirementsof one of the four, limited exclusive circumstances under which absentee voting isauthorized under the Pennsylvania constitution.Gender confusion is a mental illness
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November 29th, 2020, 07:16 PM #19
Re: Interesting New Lawsuit Filed In PaState Court by PA GOP Challenge mail votes
Emphasis added by me:
§ 14. Absentee voting.
(a) The Legislature shall, by general law, provide a manner in which, and the time and place at which, qualified electors who may, on the occurrence of any election, be absent from the municipality of their residence, because their duties, occupation or business require them to be elsewhere or who, on the occurrence of any election, are unable to attend at their proper polling places because of illness or physical disability or who will not attend a polling place because of the observance of a religious holiday or who cannot vote because of election day duties, in the case of a county employee, may vote, and for the return and canvass of their votes in the election district in which they respectively reside.
(b) For purposes of this section, "municipality" means a city, borough, incorporated town, township or any similar general purpose unit of government which may be created by the General Assembly.
(Nov. 5, 1957, P.L.1019, J.R.1; May 16, 1967, P.L.1048, J.R.5; Nov. 5, 1985, P.L.555, J.R.1; Nov. 4, 1997, P.L.636, J.R.3)Get your "Guns Save Lives" stickers today! PM for more info.
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November 29th, 2020, 07:53 PM #20
Re: Interesting New Lawsuit Filed In PaState Court by PA GOP Challenge mail votes
Welllllll...I'll disagree with your interpretation of that and would let a judge rule on it. IMO, that allows the legislature to provide a means for those who are unable to vote in person, which is what that excerpt I pulled says. It does not make allowance for those who simply don't want to vote in person.
Gender confusion is a mental illness
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