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    Quote Originally Posted by SigForLife View Post
    Based on Civil Rights Defense Firm, P.C., et al v. Wolf and Lara, et al v. [PSP] Commissioner Evanchick, I think there's decent chance that Governor Wolf may take no action and simply allow them to become law, without his signature.
    I suppose that’s good new then. Thanks for clarifying

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    https://act.nraila.org/actions/campaigns/9107

    To urge support for these bills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SigForLife View Post
    Based on Civil Rights Defense Firm, P.C., et al v. Wolf and Lara, et al v. [PSP] Commissioner Evanchick, I think there's decent chance that Governor Wolf may take no action and simply allow them to become law, without his signature.
    Not according to the Reading Eagle this morning.
    They ran an article saying that wolf will veto them.

    I'd link it, but that is beyond my abilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GUNGUY45 View Post
    Not according to the Reading Eagle this morning.
    They ran an article saying that wolf will veto them.

    I'd link it, but that is beyond my abilities.
    https://www.mcall.com/news/pennsylva...outputType=amp


    Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Wolf to veto bills on carrying, selling guns during disasters

    By MARC LEVY
    Associated Press

    Nov 19, 2020 at 4:46 PM

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    Gov. Tom Wolf will veto legislation heading to his desk that would repeal long-standing laws intended to control the carrying of guns and prevent public officials from shutting down firearms sales during disaster emergencies declared by a governor.

    Wolf, a Democrat who has advocated for broader gun control measures, opposes the bills, his office said Thursday.

    The bills are the latest to pass the Republican-controlled Legislature that sought to limit Wolf*s powers during the existing coronavirus disaster emergency and beyond. Wolf has vetoed more than a half-dozen such bills.

    *The current disaster declarations in place are meant to help the administration fight the public health crises at hand and have no impact on citizens and their firearm rights,* Wolf*s office said in a statement.

    Both bills passed the Senate by identical 29-20 votes on Wednesday, with every Republican and the lone independent senator backing them and every Democrat against them. Both received approval from the state House this year.

    One bill would repeal a provision that says *no person shall carry a firearm upon the public streets or upon any public property,* although people who have a concealed-carry license are exempt. If signed by Wolf, the bill might not change much; it has long been unenforced, lawmakers say.

    However, the bill*s sponsor, Rep. Matthew Dowling, R-Fayette, said the law could be used to limit people from open carrying a firearm, which is not generally prohibited in Pennsylvania.

    The bill also would repeal a longstanding provision giving the governor the power to suspend or limit the sale of firearms during a disaster emergency. Governors can invoke a disaster emergency to bypass existing state laws and regulations to help respond to a disaster.

    The other bill is designed to prevent a governor or local government from shuttering businesses related to firearms and ammunition during a disaster emergency. Those include retailers, manufacturers, shooting ranges, clubs and hunting preserves.

    Wolf imposed a stay-at-home order and shuttered businesses deemed *non-life-sustaining* early in the pandemic. However, Wolf and his health secretary have consistently said they have no intention of implementing another broad-based shutdown.

    In March, Wolf allowed gun shops to reopen on a limited basis during the coronavirus pandemic after several justices of the Pennsylvania Supreme Court urged him to do so. Under those provisions, firearms dealers were allowed to sell their wares by individual appointment during limited hours, as long as they complied with social-distancing guidelines.

    Retailers and other businesses and establishments were allowed to reopen more broadly later in the spring.
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    Thanks for keeping us informed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAMedic=F|A= View Post
    https://www.mcall.com/news/pennsylva...outputType=amp


    Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Wolf to veto bills on carrying, selling guns during disasters

    By MARC LEVY
    Associated Press

    Nov 19, 2020 at 4:46 PM

    TODAY'S TOP NEWS VIDEOS

    Gov. Tom Wolf will veto legislation heading to his desk that would repeal long-standing laws intended to control the carrying of guns and prevent public officials from shutting down firearms sales during disaster emergencies declared by a governor.

    Wolf, a Democrat who has advocated for broader gun control measures, opposes the bills, his office said Thursday.

    The bills are the latest to pass the Republican-controlled Legislature that sought to limit Wolf*s powers during the existing coronavirus disaster emergency and beyond. Wolf has vetoed more than a half-dozen such bills.

    *The current disaster declarations in place are meant to help the administration fight the public health crises at hand and have no impact on citizens and their firearm rights,* Wolf*s office said in a statement.

    Both bills passed the Senate by identical 29-20 votes on Wednesday, with every Republican and the lone independent senator backing them and every Democrat against them. Both received approval from the state House this year.

    One bill would repeal a provision that says *no person shall carry a firearm upon the public streets or upon any public property,* although people who have a concealed-carry license are exempt. If signed by Wolf, the bill might not change much; it has long been unenforced, lawmakers say.

    However, the bill*s sponsor, Rep. Matthew Dowling, R-Fayette, said the law could be used to limit people from open carrying a firearm, which is not generally prohibited in Pennsylvania.

    The bill also would repeal a longstanding provision giving the governor the power to suspend or limit the sale of firearms during a disaster emergency. Governors can invoke a disaster emergency to bypass existing state laws and regulations to help respond to a disaster.

    The other bill is designed to prevent a governor or local government from shuttering businesses related to firearms and ammunition during a disaster emergency. Those include retailers, manufacturers, shooting ranges, clubs and hunting preserves.

    Wolf imposed a stay-at-home order and shuttered businesses deemed *non-life-sustaining* early in the pandemic. However, Wolf and his health secretary have consistently said they have no intention of implementing another broad-based shutdown.

    In March, Wolf allowed gun shops to reopen on a limited basis during the coronavirus pandemic after several justices of the Pennsylvania Supreme Court urged him to do so. Under those provisions, firearms dealers were allowed to sell their wares by individual appointment during limited hours, as long as they complied with social-distancing guidelines.

    Retailers and other businesses and establishments were allowed to reopen more broadly later in the spring.
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    Maybe he*ll be too busy next week enjoying thanksgiving with his family in an undisclosed location to veto the bills.

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    Wolf veto-ing pro gun bills????? That is truly shocking!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SigForLife View Post
    Uh...there's other things in play, especially in relation to HB 1747, where Governor Wolf may just not take any action on it, and allow it to become law, instead of losing the constitutional challenge that we have pending.
    Ok because this reminds me of the Obama care votes in Congress. Easy to vote when zero chance of passage. So tired of politicians lying and fake votes.
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    Default Re: Pro-Gun Bills Pass PA Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by PAMedic=F|A= View Post
    https://www.mcall.com/news/pennsylva...outputType=amp


    Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Wolf to veto bills on carrying, selling guns during disasters

    By MARC LEVY
    Associated Press

    Nov 19, 2020 at 4:46 PM

    TODAY'S TOP NEWS VIDEOS

    Gov. Tom Wolf will veto legislation heading to his desk that would repeal long-standing laws intended to control the carrying of guns and prevent public officials from shutting down firearms sales during disaster emergencies declared by a governor.

    Wolf, a Democrat who has advocated for broader gun control measures, opposes the bills, his office said Thursday.

    The bills are the latest to pass the Republican-controlled Legislature that sought to limit Wolf*s powers during the existing coronavirus disaster emergency and beyond. Wolf has vetoed more than a half-dozen such bills.

    *The current disaster declarations in place are meant to help the administration fight the public health crises at hand and have no impact on citizens and their firearm rights,* Wolf*s office said in a statement.

    Both bills passed the Senate by identical 29-20 votes on Wednesday, with every Republican and the lone independent senator backing them and every Democrat against them. Both received approval from the state House this year.

    One bill would repeal a provision that says *no person shall carry a firearm upon the public streets or upon any public property,* although people who have a concealed-carry license are exempt. If signed by Wolf, the bill might not change much; it has long been unenforced, lawmakers say.

    However, the bill*s sponsor, Rep. Matthew Dowling, R-Fayette, said the law could be used to limit people from open carrying a firearm, which is not generally prohibited in Pennsylvania.

    The bill also would repeal a longstanding provision giving the governor the power to suspend or limit the sale of firearms during a disaster emergency. Governors can invoke a disaster emergency to bypass existing state laws and regulations to help respond to a disaster.

    The other bill is designed to prevent a governor or local government from shuttering businesses related to firearms and ammunition during a disaster emergency. Those include retailers, manufacturers, shooting ranges, clubs and hunting preserves.

    Wolf imposed a stay-at-home order and shuttered businesses deemed *non-life-sustaining* early in the pandemic. However, Wolf and his health secretary have consistently said they have no intention of implementing another broad-based shutdown.

    In March, Wolf allowed gun shops to reopen on a limited basis during the coronavirus pandemic after several justices of the Pennsylvania Supreme Court urged him to do so. Under those provisions, firearms dealers were allowed to sell their wares by individual appointment during limited hours, as long as they complied with social-distancing guidelines.

    Retailers and other businesses and establishments were allowed to reopen more broadly later in the spring.
    And there we have it! Any veto override? Hmmm? Let*s see the scotus ruling.
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