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    Default Re: Lawsuits being filed have enough evidence for Trump to win Pennsylvania

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    FBI/DOJ could prove the fraud. QUOTE]

    LMFAO!!!

    It's not anything to laugh at. Just look at the victims they wanted to and did prosecute. Innocents who did prison time, left destitute from legal expenses.
    wouldn't be surprised if the fbi/doj was involved in performing the fraud...
    Let's go Brandon!!!

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    Default Re: Lawsuits being filed have enough evidence for Trump to win Pennsylvania

    We're all playing lawyers here, I guess. OK, I'll play.

    WE DO NOT HAVE TO PROVE ANY FRAUD TOOK PLACE.

    The PA state legislature (and presumably those in MI, as well) created election laws that REQUIRE (not suggest, require) that observers from both parties be given free and clear access to the entire vote canvassing process, precisely so that there will be no basis for assuming fraud. The observer REQUIREMENT is essential to proving the election is fair and unbiased. The burden of proof is on those who counted the votes and refused to follow the law with regard to allowing observers into the canvassing areas to prove that there was no fraud. Preventing the legally required, trained and appointed observers from having access is sufficient to invalidate the election.

    Why is seemingly everyone around here buying into the Democrat line of argument?

    That said, there is a metric shit-ton (technical term) of mathematical evidence that there was vote fraud, as well as anecdotal evidence from people involved in the process who will swear to it. The standard of proof is not that we have to point to any particular ballot and "prove" it's fraudulent. Stop parroting the Democrat reasoning.

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    Default Re: Lawsuits being filed have enough evidence for Trump to win Pennsylvania

    Quote Originally Posted by icp4life162005 View Post
    Except for the fact it could show foreign collusion and involvement in election fraud and subverting the government and constitution of the united states.

    But yea, that laptop is meaningless. /sarc.
    I am not disputing the possibility that there is some evidence of collusion or conspiracy to commit fraud on the laptop, just the idea that even if something is found, it will be somehow used to cast aspersions on the claim of Biden to the presidency. No one who matters cares about investigating the laptop. It was reported that there are images of Hunter Biden with the underage daughter of what's his name Coombs on it, and the media won't ask a single question. My point is, the laptop needed to be used much more actively before the election, as it's power has been significantly diminished now. What we have to count on now is exposing the fraud directly related to actual vote and ballot manipulation.

    The laptop may prove to be the undoing of Joe Biden, which I vigorously hope for, but it will not be the thing that keeps him from the White House. All my opinion of course.
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    Default Re: Lawsuits being filed have enough evidence for Trump to win Pennsylvania

    Quote Originally Posted by PottsJ11 View Post
    I disagree. Though I don't think Giuliani should've been the one up there speaking, someone else should have; I firmly believe that someone needs to be on a podium 24/7 telling the world that media doesn't decide elections, voters do. The margins are still slim. It's irresponsible and the narrative makes me sick.
    Someone needs to be on TV constantly to plead the cause, keep Trump supporters engaged and bring in the cash. This is not going to be cheap.

    Stuart

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    Default Re: Lawsuits being filed have enough evidence for Trump to win Pennsylvania

    Lookslike media has decided this one. They, including FOX, are referring to Biden as The President Elect. How will they roll it back if the ballots counted after the shut-off date are found to be invalid, and other shenanigans, putting Trump back on top?
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    Default Re: Lawsuits being filed have enough evidence for Trump to win Pennsylvania

    Al Gore was the presumptive President-Elect for 37 days.

    This ain't over.
    I am not a lawyer.

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    Default Re: Lawsuits being filed have enough evidence for Trump to win Pennsylvania

    Quote Originally Posted by buckengr View Post
    Al Gore was the presumptive President-Elect for 37 days.

    This ain't over.
    At the moment, this should be the quote of the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCinPA View Post
    We're all playing lawyers here, I guess. OK, I'll play.

    WE DO NOT HAVE TO PROVE ANY FRAUD TOOK PLACE.

    The PA state legislature (and presumably those in MI, as well) created election laws that REQUIRE (not suggest, require) that observers from both parties be given free and clear access to the entire vote canvassing process, precisely so that there will be no basis for assuming fraud. The observer REQUIREMENT is essential to proving the election is fair and unbiased. The burden of proof is on those who counted the votes and refused to follow the law with regard to allowing observers into the canvassing areas to prove that there was no fraud. Preventing the legally required, trained and appointed observers from having access is sufficient to invalidate the election.

    Why is seemingly everyone around here buying into the Democrat line of argument?

    That said, there is a metric shit-ton (technical term) of mathematical evidence that there was vote fraud, as well as anecdotal evidence from people involved in the process who will swear to it. The standard of proof is not that we have to point to any particular ballot and "prove" it's fraudulent. Stop parroting the Democrat reasoning.
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    Eric Trump
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    We are looking into this as we speak...
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    Philadelphia has destroyed all ballot envelopes.

    This will make identifying naked ballots and ballots arriving post election impossible. It will also make finding fraud in an audit very hard.

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    Default Re: Lawsuits being filed have enough evidence for Trump to win Pennsylvania

    Quote Originally Posted by scruff View Post
    Eric Trump
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    We are looking into this as we speak...
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    David Chapman
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    Philadelphia has destroyed all ballot envelopes.

    This will make identifying naked ballots and ballots arriving post election impossible. It will also make finding fraud in an audit very hard.
    It also makes it impossible to certify the election, or preform a recount, as any recount would require those envelopes.

    Guess the legislative branch is just going to have to appoint electors.
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