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  1. #41
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    Default Re: You GOTTA read this! HB 2957

    Quote Originally Posted by PAMedic=F|A= View Post
    But it doesn*t take away anything we already have unless I miss understood it?
    That provision is a sop to address obvious Fifth Amendment issues. Once you use it up you cannot get more. You cannot add to existing supplies. You cannot transfer it to others. And here what will happen by "regulation". You will be forced to declare what ammo you owned prior to the effective date. They will be allowed to come in and inspect it. How else are they going to know if you are possessing it "legally". The other way is just to arrest you and drive you into bankruptcy fighting them in a criminal court and effectively trying to prove you bought it before the effective date. Sure the "burden" is on the prosecution to prove you acquired it later but as a practical matter you are going to have to prove it to keep a jury from screwing you.

  2. #42
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    Default Re: You GOTTA read this! HB 2957

    This is the SturmaAbetlieg , these are Dignity Battlions, this is the Bolivarian Militia .


    THIS is what the Antifa/ BLM/ Socialists are going to use to replace the Police , after they are Defunded.

    THIS is what the ( Usual Suspects ) will use enforce ( insert authoritarian government activities here . Certian ones are heavily implied , but none are ruled out . Let your Conspiracy Theory imagination have free rein , and it would probably be covered .)

    VFD members are called out to both legitimize the idea, and to Co- Opt at least some VFD members .

  3. #43
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    Default Re: You GOTTA read this! HB 2957

    so what if pafoa joined, dominated, flushed out the socialists, and used it as a vehicle to spin things the other way?

    just asking...

  4. #44
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    Default Re: You GOTTA read this! HB 2957

    For the most part we're safe for 2 more years, as long as Kauffman is judiciary chair. That doesn't mean attempts won't be made through other committees...

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    Default Re: You GOTTA read this! HB 2957

    Quote Originally Posted by Biggfoot44 View Post
    This is the SturmaAbetlieg , these are Dignity Battlions, this is the Bolivarian Militia .


    THIS is what the Antifa/ BLM/ Socialists are going to use to replace the Police , after they are Defunded.

    THIS is what the ( Usual Suspects ) will use enforce ( insert authoritarian government activities here . Certian ones are heavily implied , but none are ruled out . Let your Conspiracy Theory imagination have free rein , and it would probably be covered .)

    VFD members are called out to both legitimize the idea, and to Co- Opt at least some VFD members .
    That is the plan and this bill is perhaps the most overtly treasonous piece of legislation the Democrats have dropped on us yet. It turns the Second Amendment on its head. It gives the loyal Democrat Party Paramilitiaries (a/k/a "Antifa", "BLM", "BAMN" and "Black Bloc" etc.) the arms, ammunition, and authority and all neatly wrapped with the moral force of law to continue their mayhem and murder against essentially unarmed citizens.

  6. #46
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    Default Re: You GOTTA read this! HB 2957

    The BrownCoats are coming!!! Party like its 1775
    Hoplophobia is funny

  7. #47
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    Default Re: You GOTTA read this! HB 2957

    Basically this bill would legalize Antifa and card carrying BLM members as being PA state funded foot soldiers while outlawing ammunition for everyone else.

    Looters, rioters, those who openly burn the flag and say itís time to burn it all down are going to be recruited to uphold the wishes of whoís in charge all wile disarming the populace.

    While I donít see it passing it does show how the crazy is being more and more excepted and we are seeing extremists in suits and ties being elected and given power. The douche who submitted this bill knows that people do not want to hear defund the police so this is his way around it while trying to sound patriotic.


    End of story.

  8. #48
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    Default Re: You GOTTA read this! HB 2957

    If it passes the VFD's will have no problems recruiting new fireman

  9. #49
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    Default Re: You GOTTA read this! HB 2957

    The only advantage I see if it passes is now you will know exactly who your enemy is since they are wearing a uniform.

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    Default Re: You GOTTA read this! HB 2957

    Quote Originally Posted by Pag23 View Post
    Sounds like 1933 all over again...
    Recommended reading

    https://www.amazon.com/Cant-Happen-H.../dp/0451465644


    Meanwhile, meet the Sponsors

    Christopher M Rabb
    https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs...io.cfm?id=1760
    Jared G Solomon*
    https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs...io.cfm?id=1761
    Donna Bullock
    https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs...io.cfm?id=1736
    Maureen E Madden
    https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs...io.cfm?id=1753

    Sugar-coating the turd
    Notice what the press release does not mention
    https://www.pahouse.com/Rabb/InTheNe...ase/?id=117246
    no size restrictions & screw the limit.

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