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    Default Re: You GOTTA read this! HB 2957

    Quote Originally Posted by icp4life162005 View Post
    No.

    This is what they are doing while you are distracted with the votes.
    This is what they do because they have stolen an election. This is just one more step to the full on leftist and NWO dictatorship. Obama said multiple times that he wanted and domestic defense force "as well armed and funded as our military". He did not completely achieve it but made a good start. This is how it will be done at the State level.

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    Default Re: You GOTTA read this! HB 2957

    At least they remembered to remove the word "undermenschen".
    Attorney Phil Kline, AKA gunlawyer001@gmail.com
    There's merit to carrying your backup mag in a backup gun.

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    Default Re: You GOTTA read this! HB 2957

    Quote Originally Posted by icp4life162005 View Post
    Any jacketed round larger than .22?
    Wrong on almost all cals, read the whole definition line, paying attention to the "AND"

    (2 ) A full-jacketed projectile larger than .22 caliber
    and whose jacket has a weight of more than 25% of the total
    weight of the projectile.

    FYI heres some jacket weights from some rounds

    9mm fmj
    115g 22g
    124g 22.5g

    357 fmj 158g 28.6g

    45acp 230g fmj 32.4g

    223 (technically 224 diameter so still larger than .220 listed)
    55g m855 10.3g
    62g 12.6g
    75g horn match 13.7g

    308
    175g matchking 41.4g
    208 amax 55.7 (over the 25%)

    762x39
    123g hornady fmj 39.8g (over the 25%)
    every day i add more names to the list of people whose mothers should have swallowed them

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    Default Re: You GOTTA read this! HB 2957

    Quote Originally Posted by Brick View Post
    Not a chance in hell of passing,
    ...not so fast there pardner, think of who's gonna be around
    The chair is against the wall... John has a long mustache...

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    Default Re: You GOTTA read this! HB 2957

    The following words and phrases when used in this subchapter
    shall have the meanings given to them in this section unless the
    context clearly indicates otherwise:

    High power - Mentioned only in the preamble, no definition given
    There are only two kinds of guns. Those I have and those I want.

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    Default Re: You GOTTA read this! HB 2957

    Sounds like 1933 all over again...

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    Default Re: You GOTTA read this! HB 2957

    Quote Originally Posted by Bang View Post
    The following words and phrases when used in this subchapter
    shall have the meanings given to them in this section unless the
    context clearly indicates otherwise:

    High power - Mentioned only in the preamble, no definition given


    (d) Definitions.--As used in this section, "high-powe r
    firearm ammunition" shall mean the following types of
    ammunition:
    (1) Ammunition constructed entirely from one or a
    combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze,
    beryllium copper or depleted uranium.
    (2 ) A full-jacketed projectile larger than .22 calibe r
    and whose jacket has a weight of more than 25% of the total
    weight of the projectile.
    (3 ) Ammunition that is .50 caliber or greater .
    (4 ) Flechette ammunition .
    (5 ) Ammunition that contains exothermic pyrophoric mes h
    metal as a projectile and is designed for the sole purpose of
    throwing or spewing a flame or fireball to simulate a
    flamethrower.
    (6 ) Bolo shells .
    (7 ) Hollow Nose, Dum-Dum or other ammunition designed t o
    expand upon impact
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    Illegitimus non carborundum est

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    Default Re: You GOTTA read this! HB 2957

    Or 1987.

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    Default Re: You GOTTA read this! HB 2957

    This is the armed component to enforce contract tracing and eventually mandatory vaccines. It is right in there. The interstate mutual assistance is about forming a Commonwealth standing army to cooperate with NY, CT, NJ, RI, MA etc. The little regional sub-government that Wolf and the other Democrat Governors entered into to design and enforce the lockdown, travel restrictions and mask wearing. This is the totalitarianism they have all been working for. The House and Senate were intended to be stolen too. Not just Shapiro's tidy little piece of fascism run out of the AG's office. Were that to happen, this would be law and they would be building it out as a priority item.

    BTY it bans all .50 cal or greater ammo. Better turn in your Brown Bess and Civil War muskets.

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    Default Re: You GOTTA read this! HB 2957

    Quote Originally Posted by knight0334 View Post
    It is trying to turn PA into NJ in regards to ammo laws, except NJ allows you to own said ammo in the home and use only for hunting/range - which makes things WORSE than NJ. This bill strips the people of said ammo with no provision for hunting, protection, collecting, etc. Then after said action, creates a "defense force" which members of which can get licensed after going through criminal, physical, and mental checks. It grades the violation as a 1st Degree Misdemeanor which in turn strips you of your 2A rights.

    EVERY PART OF THIS BILL IS BAD.
    Here is the great part! It establishes the "just following orders" defense granting nearly complete immunity for following orders and killing people with their high powered ammunition.

    "Except in cases of willful misconduct, gross negligence or bad faith, neither the participating political subdivisions nor their employees shall be liable for the death of or injury to persons or for damage to property when complying or attempting to comply with the system."

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