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    Default Re: F.O.A.C. Endorses Biden-Harris Supporter in 50th District

    Quote Originally Posted by Bang View Post
    Strange things are happening in the political world. Gifford's rabid anti-gun org endorsed Brian FitzPatrick. His campaign manager stated he doesn't know why.
    Try as I might, I just can't figure it out either. He always says that he's a staunch supporter of the 2A and sportsmans' rights.




    U.S. Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick, R-8th District, joins Democrats on Capitol Hill urging support for a bill allowing family members or law enforcement officials to seek a court order temporarily preventing an individual who may harm themselves or others from possessing or buying guns. (LAURA OLSON/Morning Call)

    WASHINGTON * FBI agent turned lawmaker Brian Fitzpatrick on Tuesday became the only Republican in the U.S. House to back a bill preventing a potentially dangerous person from owning or buying a gun.


    The Democratic proposal, introduced in May, gained Fitzpatrick*s support after a Florida teenager shot and killed people at a high school. The measure would create what supporters call gun violence restraining orders.

    It*s among a series of gun-control measures that Fitzpatrick is supporting as he and other lawmakers push to break the cycle of congressional talk but inaction that has followed mass shootings across the country in recent years.

    He*s also the only House Republican co-sponsor listed on a proposal introduced this week to raise the minimum age for purchasing semiautomatic rifles to 21. An AR-15 type weapon was used in Florida, police say.

    Fitzpatrick, who as a federal agent carried a weapon daily and prosecuted gun crimes, says he cried Tuesday in response to meeting with students from Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.

    He plans to work on his colleagues * including House leaders who control which bills will make it to the floor for a vote * so that he*s not the only Republican backing these proposals.

    *This should not be controversial,* Fitzpatrick told The Morning Call regarding the gun violence protection order legislation. *Giving family members and cohabitants the right to petition a court for someone they deem to be dangerous, I don*t see how everyone can*t get on board with that. That seems common sense to me.*

    He also views the proposal as in line with the Second Amendment*s constitutional protections to bear arms, pointing to the due-process rights involved in seeking judicial approval for a potential restraining order.
    *It*s important for Second Amendment advocates to want these things,* Fitzpatrick said. *If these tragedies keep occurring, their arguments get a lot tougher. So I think it*s in everybody*s interest to solve it.*

    Fitzpatrick said the response to the latest shooting has felt different, and he*s been hearing from constituents in his moderate, suburban Philadelphia district on all sides of the gun debate.

    In 2016 Republican Donald Trump defeated Democrat Hillary Clinton by less than 1,000 votes in Fitzpatrick's 8th District, which is expected to remain very competitive under Pennsylvania*s new congressional court-drawn map.

    While he*s the only House Republican so far backing the gun violence restraining order, several other GOP officials have signaled support. Florida Gov. Rick Scott has indicated support for similar laws, which have passed in several states, as has U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida, who tweeted that the concept *can be crafted to respect 2nd Amendment & right to due process."

    U.S. Sen. Pat Toomey, R-Pa., also expressed openness during an interview Sunday on NBC*s *Meet the Press.* Toomey said *there*s an important discussion to be had* about allowing temporary restraining orders on those showing signs of dangerous behavior, but emphasized that such a system requires due process protections.

    Still, Fitzpatrick*s show of support drew praise from Democrats during a news conference Tuesday urging a vote on the legislation.

    *This is not liberal legislation. It*s already the law in Indiana, in Texas, places like that,* said U.S. Rep. Don Beyer, D-Virginia. *I*m so proud that Brian Fitzpatrick is here, brave enough to take on the NRA*s stranglehold on his party.*

    Fitzpatrick also was an original co-sponsor of a background check bill from U.S. Rep. Mike Thompson, D-Calif. As with the legislation from Toomey and West Virginia Democrat Joe Manchin, that measure would expand the existing background check system to cover all commercial firearm sales, including those at gun shows and over the internet.

    He also supports banning the rapid-fire bump stock accessories used in the Las Vegas concert shooting, and reversing restrictions preventing the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention from studying gun violence.

    House Republican leaders showed little interest Tuesday in taking up any of the proposals being discussed in the wake of the latest shooting.

    Asked about proposals for stricter background checks or barring assault weapon sales, House Speaker Paul Ryan said Congress shouldn't be *banning guns from law-abiding citizens.* He also said he thinks President Donald Trump's idea of arming teachers is best left to local governments.

    On the other side of the U.S. Capitol, senators have been discussing legislation to penalize federal agencies that don't properly report required records to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System and to reward states that comply by providing them with federal grant preferences.

    The House previously passed a bill that included such a fix, but paired it with a provision to broaden the right to carry a concealed weapon * an addition that dooms its fate in the Senate.

    Another Senate bill put forward Tuesday was a proposal to prevent those on the no-fly list from purchasing guns. Toomey was among three Republicans, five Democrats and one independent introducing that measure.

    https://www.mcall.com/news/pennsylva...227-story.html

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    Default Re: F.O.A.C. Endorses Biden-Harris Supporter in 50th District

    Quote Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter View Post
    With a cocky attitude, deny it and defend him if you want. She's not in my territory anyway.
    Really? Asking a question is cocky? Really don't have time for nonsense like being accused of being a shill for Bloomburg at the same time we've spent 100K fighting Pittsburgh who is being defended solely by Bloomsburg...

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    Default Re: F.O.A.C. Endorses Biden-Harris Supporter in 50th District

    Quote Originally Posted by LBaker View Post
    Really? Asking a question is cocky? Really don't have time for nonsense like being accused of being a shill for Bloomburg at the same time we've spent 100K fighting Pittsburgh who is being defended solely by Bloomsburg...
    How much was spent on the mailers for Snyder?
    Get your "Guns Save Lives" stickers today! PM for more info.

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    Default Re: F.O.A.C. Endorses Biden-Harris Supporter in 50th District

    Quote Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter View Post
    With a cocky attitude, deny it and defend him if you want. She's not in my territory anyway.
    It didn't read that way to me.
    How can you have any cookies if you don't drink your milk?

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    Default Re: F.O.A.C. Endorses Biden-Harris Supporter in 50th District

    Quote Originally Posted by RockIsland View Post
    Try as I might, I just can't figure it out either. He always says that he's a staunch supporter of the 2A and sportsmans' rights.




    U.S. Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick, R-8th District, joins Democrats on Capitol Hill urging support for a bill allowing family members or law enforcement officials to seek a court order temporarily preventing an individual who may harm themselves or others from possessing or buying guns. (LAURA OLSON/Morning Call)

    WASHINGTON * FBI agent turned lawmaker Brian Fitzpatrick on Tuesday became the only Republican in the U.S. House to back a bill preventing a potentially dangerous person from owning or buying a gun.


    The Democratic proposal, introduced in May, gained Fitzpatrick*s support after a Florida teenager shot and killed people at a high school. The measure would create what supporters call gun violence restraining orders.

    It*s among a series of gun-control measures that Fitzpatrick is supporting as he and other lawmakers push to break the cycle of congressional talk but inaction that has followed mass shootings across the country in recent years.

    He*s also the only House Republican co-sponsor listed on a proposal introduced this week to raise the minimum age for purchasing semiautomatic rifles to 21. An AR-15 type weapon was used in Florida, police say.

    Fitzpatrick, who as a federal agent carried a weapon daily and prosecuted gun crimes, says he cried Tuesday in response to meeting with students from Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.

    He plans to work on his colleagues * including House leaders who control which bills will make it to the floor for a vote * so that he*s not the only Republican backing these proposals.

    *This should not be controversial,* Fitzpatrick told The Morning Call regarding the gun violence protection order legislation. *Giving family members and cohabitants the right to petition a court for someone they deem to be dangerous, I don*t see how everyone can*t get on board with that. That seems common sense to me.*

    He also views the proposal as in line with the Second Amendment*s constitutional protections to bear arms, pointing to the due-process rights involved in seeking judicial approval for a potential restraining order.
    *It*s important for Second Amendment advocates to want these things,* Fitzpatrick said. *If these tragedies keep occurring, their arguments get a lot tougher. So I think it*s in everybody*s interest to solve it.*

    Fitzpatrick said the response to the latest shooting has felt different, and he*s been hearing from constituents in his moderate, suburban Philadelphia district on all sides of the gun debate.

    In 2016 Republican Donald Trump defeated Democrat Hillary Clinton by less than 1,000 votes in Fitzpatrick's 8th District, which is expected to remain very competitive under Pennsylvania*s new congressional court-drawn map.

    While he*s the only House Republican so far backing the gun violence restraining order, several other GOP officials have signaled support. Florida Gov. Rick Scott has indicated support for similar laws, which have passed in several states, as has U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida, who tweeted that the concept *can be crafted to respect 2nd Amendment & right to due process."

    U.S. Sen. Pat Toomey, R-Pa., also expressed openness during an interview Sunday on NBC*s *Meet the Press.* Toomey said *there*s an important discussion to be had* about allowing temporary restraining orders on those showing signs of dangerous behavior, but emphasized that such a system requires due process protections.

    Still, Fitzpatrick*s show of support drew praise from Democrats during a news conference Tuesday urging a vote on the legislation.

    *This is not liberal legislation. It*s already the law in Indiana, in Texas, places like that,* said U.S. Rep. Don Beyer, D-Virginia. *I*m so proud that Brian Fitzpatrick is here, brave enough to take on the NRA*s stranglehold on his party.*

    Fitzpatrick also was an original co-sponsor of a background check bill from U.S. Rep. Mike Thompson, D-Calif. As with the legislation from Toomey and West Virginia Democrat Joe Manchin, that measure would expand the existing background check system to cover all commercial firearm sales, including those at gun shows and over the internet.

    He also supports banning the rapid-fire bump stock accessories used in the Las Vegas concert shooting, and reversing restrictions preventing the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention from studying gun violence.

    House Republican leaders showed little interest Tuesday in taking up any of the proposals being discussed in the wake of the latest shooting.

    Asked about proposals for stricter background checks or barring assault weapon sales, House Speaker Paul Ryan said Congress shouldn't be *banning guns from law-abiding citizens.* He also said he thinks President Donald Trump's idea of arming teachers is best left to local governments.

    On the other side of the U.S. Capitol, senators have been discussing legislation to penalize federal agencies that don't properly report required records to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System and to reward states that comply by providing them with federal grant preferences.

    The House previously passed a bill that included such a fix, but paired it with a provision to broaden the right to carry a concealed weapon * an addition that dooms its fate in the Senate.

    Another Senate bill put forward Tuesday was a proposal to prevent those on the no-fly list from purchasing guns. Toomey was among three Republicans, five Democrats and one independent introducing that measure.

    https://www.mcall.com/news/pennsylva...227-story.html
    I have a friend in Quakertown, who used to be an active member of the GOP over that way and he's voting Dem against Fitzpatrick. He balked at my suggestion that he do that two years ago.
    Thank you for keeping me safe.

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    Default Re: F.O.A.C. Endorses Biden-Harris Supporter in 50th District

    Quote Originally Posted by JenniferG View Post
    Yes, the NRA shouldn't be endorsing anyone that supports Biden. That is so effed up it's beyond words. It's no different than all the hype about Connor out in Pittsburgh and the first chance he got to eff over gun owners he did. This woman is going eff us over because democrats must tow the party line when push comes to shove. The only thing we can do now is hope she is crushed like all the other democrats.
    That's the thing, she hasn't turned her back on gun owners and she has not toed the party line during the pandemic. I know you feel there are no good Democrats but there are still some good blue dog dems in this state. Here is the veto over ride vote for HB 2513, she stood strong doing the right thing... https://www.legis.state.pa.us/CFDOCS...=H&rc_nbr=1688
    Last edited by LBaker; October 29th, 2020 at 07:19 PM. Reason: fix wrong link

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    Default Re: F.O.A.C. Endorses Biden-Harris Supporter in 50th District

    Quote Originally Posted by gnbrotz View Post
    How much was spent on the mailers for Snyder?
    Nothing, just time...

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    Default Re: F.O.A.C. Endorses Biden-Harris Supporter in 50th District

    Quote Originally Posted by LBaker View Post
    Has anyone bothered to look up her voting record? https://foac-pac.org/PA-Legislator-Details/436 Not only that she has voted with the republicans during this whole covid fiasco.
    Was she one of the democrats who voted with Republicans to pass bills limiting or eliminating the governor's restrictions, but then voted with Wolf and other democrats to stop the override of Wolf's vetoes?

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    Default Re: F.O.A.C. Endorses Biden-Harris Supporter in 50th District

    FitzPatrick hides behind the mantra of independence. Another way of saying do not associate him with the party he is registered with.
    "Most Independent" is camo for RINO.
    There are only two kinds of guns. Those I have and those I want.

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    Default Re: F.O.A.C. Endorses Biden-Harris Supporter in 50th District

    Quote Originally Posted by father-of-three View Post
    Was she one of the democrats who voted with Republicans to pass bills limiting or eliminating the governor's restrictions, but then voted with Wolf and other democrats to stop the override of Wolf's vetoes?
    No she voted to override Wolf. Sorry, I posted the wrong link. Correct one. https://www.legis.state.pa.us/CFDOCS...=H&rc_nbr=1688

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