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    Default Bidenís plan: Pay to keep your property or become a felon

    This is a point I*ve been making and am glad to see someone in the media is focusing on. It*s also why it is frustrating listening to gun owners who say Trump is not worth voting for because of bump stocks. (No I was not happy with that)

    This is the reality of Biden*s current gun control plan and is just the next step in the bites being taken out of the cake. He and his party do not just want to get rid of bump stocks, they want to completely get rid of any *assault gun* That millions of gun owners currently own. If they can*t outright take them right now...... they can make it to expensive for gun owners to own the guns and magazines they have already paid for. So a person either pays who knows how much money for the privilege of keeping their property or bows to a law that is heavily unjust and turns their guns in. Or....... does not turn their guns because they believe the laws to be unjust and faces the prospect of becoming a felon.

    If you are a gun owner and you have decided not to vote for Trump because of bump stocks... and because he is not the perfect 2nd amendment candidate..... this is what you are helping the democrats set up. Enjoy the choice of paying an outrageous amount of money to keep your property..... or face the very real possibility of becoming a felon under the Democrats plan.

    Massive federal gun control can*t happen? Of course it can and has several times in the past. 1934, 86, and 93 among others comes to mind. And if you think the mess that Biden is proposing will be it for gun control.... it*s not. It just the next step.


    Read it for yourself...... This is Bidens official gun control platform. https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/#




    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...y-already-own/

    Joe Biden*s Gun Agenda Could Cost AR-15 Owners $3.6 Billion in Taxes for Guns They Already Own
    AWR Hawkins17 Oct 2020
    Joe Biden
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    Democrat presidential nominee Joe Biden*s proposed gun control policy includes a provision that could require every AR-15 rifle be registered under the National Firearms Act of 1934. Unless there were some form of carve-out, this could mandate that American gun owners pay a $200 federal tax per AR-15 that they own. The National Rifle Association*s Andrew Arulanandam told Breitbart News that the current *low end* estimate of privately-owned AR-15s in the United States is 18 million. A tax of $200 on 18 million AR-15s means that gun owners could potentially be required to a pay a collective $3.6 billion in taxes, if this policy were enacted into legislation.

    That figure does not even consider other guns that might be deemed *assault weapons* by Democrats, which could also fall under the same provisions of the National Firearms Act.

    In addition to the $200 tax, owners of guns that are deemed *assault weapons,* under Biden*s view of the NFA, could also be required to register these weapons with federal authorities, submit their finger prints and photograph, and potentially submit to an FBI background check.

    All of this is detailed on Biden*s campaign website, which states in bullet-point form (emphasis in original):

    Regulate possession of existing assault weapons under the National Firearms Act. Currently, the National Firearms Act requires individuals possessing machine-guns, silencers, and short-barreled rifles to undergo a background check and register those weapons with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF). Due to these requirements, such weapons are rarely used in crimes. As president, Biden will pursue legislation to regulate possession of existing assault weapons under the National Firearms Act.

    The above paragraph on Biden*s website links to a memorandum from former Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords* Giffords Law Center that calls for the regulation of *assault weapons* under the National Firearms Act (NFA).

    The Giffords* memorandum notes:

    The NFA, enacted in 1934, was the first federal regulation of the manufacture and transfer of firearms. Machine guns, short-barreled rifles, and silencers are currently regulated under the NFA. In order to possess NFA firearms, individuals must undergo a background check process that includes the submission of photo identification and fingerprints and requires the registration of the firearm with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF). Individuals must also pay a $200 transfer tax, an amount that has not changed since the NFA was established in 1934.

    The Giffords* memorandum then calls for the policy that the Biden campaign website also endorses: *Giffords proposes that Congress require all existing assault weapons to be regulated under the National Firearms Act.*

    The Giffords* memorandum specifically defines *assault weapons* to include the AR-15, stating: *Assault weapons are a class of semiautomatic firearms that are designed to kill people quickly and efficiently. The most common variety, the AR-15, is the civilian version of the M16, a combat rifle that made its debut on the battlefield in Vietnam.*

    As noted, if lawfully enacted, this policy could encompass *all existing assault weapons.* In practice, this could mean every American who owns a weapon like an AR-15 * or any other gun deemed by Democrats to be an *assault weapon* * could be required to submit their fingerprints and photograph, undergo an FBI background check, register these weapons with the ATF, and pay the federal government a $200 tax for each weapon.

    In a recent interview with CNN*s Anderson Cooper asked Biden, *So, to gun owners out there who say, well, a Biden administration means they*re going to come for guns?* Biden responded Biden responded, *Bingo. You*re right, if you have an *assault weapon.* The fact of the matter is they should be illegal, period.*
    Proof Armed citizens make a difference. http://forum.pafoa.org/showthread.php?t=316012

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    Default Re: Bidenís plan: Pay to keep your property or become a felon

    Good post ! I get Trump Literature daily , and not much mention of the 2A on the mailers .

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    Default Re: Bidenís plan: Pay to keep your property or become a felon

    I'm going to steal your post later and put it on my fakebook.
    "Sometimes reasonable men must do unreasonable things."- Marvin Heemeyer

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    Default Re: Bidenís plan: Pay to keep your property or become a felon

    The ATF could barely keep up with the requests for tax stamps for those buying sound suppressors and short barreled firearms in addition to AOW and whatever is being transferred with machine guns. There is no way they will be able to register everyone's semi auto rifle.

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    Default Re: Bidenís plan: Pay to keep your property or become a felon

    Quote Originally Posted by eagleclaw View Post
    The ATF could barely keep up with the requests for tax stamps for those buying sound suppressors and short barreled firearms in addition to AOW and whatever is being transferred with machine guns. There is no way they will be able to register everyone's semi auto rifle.
    The ATF keeping up isn't viewed as a problem. Just like the delay for LTCF's by sheriffs in PA because of covid isn't viewed as a problem. Government incompetence is of no concern to the government.
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    all you get is ridicule, laughter,
    and a trip to the house of pain.

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    The timeline would be:
    - Biden wins, the Dems get Senate majority.
    - Senate eliminates filibuster.
    - Dem majority passes new gun control.
    - Supreme Court strikes it down, because AR-15's are indisputably among the "most commonly owned weapons".
    - Dems pack the new court, 9-6 majority of shameless Progressive hacks.
    - Dems pass the AWB again, the new court rubber-stamps it 10-5 (they still have dirt on Roberts).
    - Confiscations begin. Many police refuse to obey, but some follow orders.
    - Unlike the Jews being rounded up the Gestapo in the 1930's, gun owners shoot back.
    - Things happen kinetically.
    - American flag is modified to reflect the states that have now left the union, just as soon as all the high level official funerals are finished.
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    can't rep GL. stupid rep system.
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    Default Re: Bidenís plan: Pay to keep your property or become a felon

    Quote Originally Posted by GunLawyer001 View Post
    The timeline would be:
    - Biden wins, the Dems get Senate majority.
    - Senate eliminates filibuster.
    - Dem majority passes new gun control.
    - Supreme Court strikes it down, because AR-15's are indisputably among the "most commonly owned weapons".
    - Dems pack the new court, 9-6 majority of shameless Progressive hacks.
    - Dems pass the AWB again, the new court rubber-stamps it 10-5 (they still have dirt on Roberts).
    - Confiscations begin. Many police refuse to obey, but some follow orders.
    - Unlike the Jews being rounded up the Gestapo in the 1930's, gun owners shoot back.
    - Things happen kinetically.
    - American flag is modified to reflect the states that have now left the union, just as soon as all the high level official funerals are finished.
    This

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    Default Re: Bidenís plan: Pay to keep your property or become a felon

    Don't forget, it's not just "assault weapons" that would be subject to NFA.

    Every "high capacity magazine", i.e. over 10 rounds, would also be subject to NFA registration and $200 tax, per magazine, under the Biden plan.

    Fuck him and anyone who votes for him.
    I am not a lawyer.

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    Default Re: Bidenís plan: Pay to keep your property or become a felon

    When confiscation and registration starts, repeat after me: ďI will not complyĒ and ďwhat firearms? I lost them all in multiple tragic kayaking accidents.Ē 😉

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