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    Default Re: Dragons breath vs. clean barrel

    Quote Originally Posted by Misery Loves Shotguns View Post
    As an alternative to dragon's breath, I make steel wool shells every fall when I do my night shoots. Take birdshot, cut off the end of the shell and dump the contents, put a small piece of steel wool in with the powder behind the wad. I tried it with 0000 and I think the other one I have is 0. The 0000 is easier to work with but I didn't notice any difference in the way they burn up. This is entirely done for amusement though. I've seen plenty of examples of poor penetration and minimal damage on targets once you get past around 7 yards with birdshot so I would really only use buckshot or slugs for anything more serious than stripping paint off my steel targets or shooting clays.
    I wouldnt recommend bird beyond 7 either.
    But apocalypse, shooting anything that comes through the door. Bird has that cheap and abundant factor. My shotgun right now is loaded up with 00buck and a strip of slugs hangs from it for reload.

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    Default Re: Dragons breath vs. clean barrel

    Quote Originally Posted by buxbandit View Post
    Flares also may not have the range. We've developed a defense plan for our small development, and "walls of fire" play a part.
    Flares shoot farther than dragons breath. Hell if you want range 3 sparklers taped to an arrow has longer range than either flares or dragons breath.

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    Default Re: Dragons breath vs. clean barrel

    Quote Originally Posted by USMC3531 View Post
    Flares shoot farther than dragons breath. Hell if you want range 3 sparklers taped to an arrow has longer range than either flares or dragons breath.
    Oooo now thats an idea!

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    Default Re: Dragons breath vs. clean barrel

    Quote Originally Posted by USMC3531 View Post
    Having shot plenty of dragons breath it is about as useful as throwing firecrackers in a self defense situation. I'd rather remotely fire fireworks mortars at the incoming marauders as a distraction while shooting from a different vantage point.
    Oh no you didn*t! Pissing all over fantasy with reality will not be tolerated mister!

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    Default Re: Dragons breath vs. clean barrel

    Nobody mentioned bird bombs yet.

    Cut shells

    Melted wax bird shot encasement

    Those cleaning shells we just learned about

    Trebuchet

    Potato guns

    Beer can mortars

    Blowguns
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    Default Re: Dragons breath vs. clean barrel

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunsnwater View Post
    Nobody mentioned bird bombs yet.

    Cut shells

    Melted wax bird shot encasement

    Those cleaning shells we just learned about

    Trebuchet

    Potato guns

    Beer can mortars

    Blowguns
    Lol this is why I bought 2 cases or bird shot at the beginning of covid when there were no buck or slugs to be found.

    Bird bombs will blow a fat hole through someone and just about fully transfers the energy to target.

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    Default Re: Dragons breath vs. clean barrel

    Quote Originally Posted by USMC3531 View Post
    Flares shoot farther than dragons breath. Hell if you want range 3 sparklers taped to an arrow has longer range than either flares or dragons breath.
    In virtually any circumstance a home built or jury rigged substitute could work, and may even work better.
    However there's a difference between the two, and I'll take purpose built if I have the option.
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    Default Re: Dragons breath vs. clean barrel

    Quote Originally Posted by Boondox View Post
    Hey ya know what , do ya , huh huh , do u wanna know what
    wouldn't it be cool if say some genius cast maybe some lead balls
    make them UGE about .33 inch and shove maybe 9 of those puppies into a shot shell.
    how bitchin would that be
    bet that would leave a mark doncha' think
    Or, blow shit up.
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    Default Re: Dragons breath vs. clean barrel

    Quote Originally Posted by icp4life162005 View Post
    Lol this is why I bought 2 cases or bird shot at the beginning of covid when there were no buck or slugs to be found.

    Bird bombs will blow a fat hole through someone and just about fully transfers the energy to target.
    A 1oz #8 trapload will blow a clean quarter sized hole through 1/2" sheetrock, fiberglass insulation, two pieces of 5/8" plywood and a piece of vinyl siding at about two yards.

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    Default Re: Dragons breath vs. clean barrel

    Quote Originally Posted by RockIsland View Post
    A 1oz #8 trapload will blow a clean quarter sized hole through 1/2" sheetrock, fiberglass insulation, two pieces of 5/8" plywood and a piece of vinyl siding at about two yards.
    I'm sure there's a story behind why you know that with such certainty.
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