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    Default How many full-bore battle rifle rounds in a range session?

    Iíve always been kind of curious; how many 30 caliber military rounds does the average Joe fire in one session before it becomes irritating?
    I have never been particularly sensitive to recoil, and I am 5-7 and 145 pounds. I shoot an original G.I. configuration M1 Garand with the steel butt plate, and a Springfield Armory Inc. M1A standard model with the fiberglass stock and the hard rubber butt pad.
    Iíve been shooting both of these rifles for many years, and I found that after about 60 rounds in part of an afternoon, I tend to have a mark on my shoulder the next day. After about 80 or 100 rounds, I end up with a pretty good discolored region ha ha.
    Mind you, this is not debilitating; it does not hurt when I move the shoulder or when I put clothes on or whatever, just when I touch it. I generally notice when my wife says something.
    Yeah, I know I am a lightweight and all, but I was curious if guys who are like 175 or 200 pounds have enough beef on the front of the shoulder where it doesnít leave a telltale sign the next day!
    It doesnít matter whether I am prone or in a more upright posture shooting off hand or over the bags.
    Just curious if I were the only guy who wondered about this and took note. Yes, I hold the weapon tight so it doesnít get a ďrunĒ at my shoulder to develop KE before I get smacked (I have heard of this before).
    My experience is obviously not so traumatic as to prevent my repeating it over and over.
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    Just wondering...

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    Default Re: How many full-bore battle rifle rounds in a range session?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jabberwocky View Post
    I*ve always been kind of curious; how many 30 caliber military rounds does the average Joe fire in one session before it becomes irritating?
    I have never been particularly sensitive to recoil, and I am 5-7 and 145 pounds. I shoot an original G.I. configuration M1 Garand with the steel butt plate, and a Springfield Armory Inc. M1A standard model with the fiberglass stock and the hard rubber butt pad.
    I*ve been shooting both of these rifles for many years, and I found that after about 60 rounds in part of an afternoon, I tend to have a mark on my shoulder the next day. After about 80 or 100 rounds, I end up with a pretty good discolored region ha ha.
    Mind you, this is not debilitating; it does not hurt when I move the shoulder or when I put clothes on or whatever, just when I touch it. I generally notice when my wife says something.
    Yeah, I know I am a lightweight and all, but I was curious if guys who are like 175 or 200 pounds have enough beef on the front of the shoulder where it doesn*t leave a telltale sign the next day!
    It doesn*t matter whether I am prone or in a more upright posture shooting off hand or over the bags.
    Just curious if I were the only guy who wondered about this and took note. Yes, I hold the weapon tight so it doesn*t get a *run* at my shoulder to develop KE before I get smacked (I have heard of this before).
    My experience is obviously not so traumatic as to prevent my repeating it over and over.
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    Just wondering...
    I'm a big boy (less so now) and I love recoil. With that said, regardless of what I shoot in the heavier recoil category, I end up with bruising.

    The only shooting session I can remember that I really started to find uncomfortable was 3 or 4 rounds of trap shooting. On the last round, I noticed my jaw was getting achy from the constant abuse.

    I have a Benelli M1 that tends to beat me up pretty good, or I beat myself up shooting 3" buck and slugs out of it.

    Only one gun have I walked away from and sold. A TC Encore Katahdin in .500 S&W. That was the sharpest, most painful kick of anything I've ever fired.
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    Default Re: How many full-bore battle rifle rounds in a range session?

    Yeah, I had a chance to shoot a 500 S&W revolver years ago. I passed. In retrospect, I should have fired like one round or something. And then going to the hospital to see if both bones in my lower right arm were intact...
    When I was a much younger man, in the 1980s, are used to hunt with my fathers circa 1975 Remington 1100 Magnum 12 gauge. It was a heavy gun, as a shotgun goes, as I recall, but it had a really soft pad on the back of the stock. Still jerked me around as I went about 135 back then.
    I was about 130 in HS and Iím 53 now and 145 if Iíve just peed.

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    Default Re: How many full-bore battle rifle rounds in a range session?

    Come to a westren pa group shoot. We have all kinds of big bore hand guns to hurt ya.
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    Default Re: How many full-bore battle rifle rounds in a range session?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jabberwocky View Post
    Yeah, I had a chance to shoot a 500 S&W revolver years ago. I passed. In retrospect, I should have fired like one round or something. And then going to the hospital to see if both bones in my lower right arm were intact...
    When I was a much younger man, in the 1980s, are used to hunt with my fathers circa 1975 Remington 1100 Magnum 12 gauge. It was a heavy gun, as a shotgun goes, as I recall, but it had a really soft pad on the back of the stock. Still jerked me around as I went about 135 back then.
    I was about 130 in HS and I*m 53 now and 145 if I*ve just peed.
    I've made my Benelli worse. They're inertia operated so weight is critical in their function. I added a side saddle which meant I had to put a lighter recoil spring in it to function with the lighter stuff. It did my shoulder no favors.

    I love the 1100s and 1187s until they get dirty.

    I've been under 200 lbs once-for about a year-in my adult life.
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    Past recoil pad under your shirt and nobody gots to know your a ....... lol. I bought one 35 years ago when shooting every 12ga reload I made on a single outing turned my shoulder into a black and blue mess. Use it on all full size rifle rounds and up. 30-06 from a 03 Springfield, 45-70 marlin. Makes you look like a he-man. Don*t let those guys kick sand in your face at the beach.
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    Default Re: How many full-bore battle rifle rounds in a range session?

    I bruise easy I guess, cause Ill have a little bruise if I shoot 150-200 rounds of .223 in one outing. If Im shooting the AR pistol with the shockwave brace, 50 rounds or so will leave a nice bruise.

    I guess Im a wuss lol.

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    Default Re: How many full-bore battle rifle rounds in a range session?

    I've really noticed much recoil from semi auto 30 cal rifles.

    I've fired hundreds of 308 from my m1a in a range session and never had any soreness.

    I supposed I learned how to manage recoil doing 500 bird shoots when I was 12.

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    I get it zeroed, a few more to check function and then clean it, put it away. Ammo is too dear right now for extended range trips,
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    Default Re: How many full-bore battle rifle rounds in a range session?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunsnwater View Post
    Past recoil pad under your shirt and nobody gots to know your a ....... lol. I bought one 35 years ago when shooting every 12ga reload I made on a single outing turned my shoulder into a black and blue mess. Use it on all full size rifle rounds and up. 30-06 from a 03 Springfield, 45-70 marlin. Makes you look like a he-man. Don*t let those guys kick sand in your face at the beach.
    I have a roll of bubble wrap in a closet and find that it works pretty damn good.
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