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    Default Re: Kyle Rittenhouse, Kenosha, Wisconsin update thread.

    I like the new Rittenhouse Cocktail. A chaser, followed by three shots.
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    Default Re: Kyle Rittenhouse, Kenosha, Wisconsin update thread.

    https://twitter.com/ElectionWiz/stat...55098095738882

    BREAKING: Dominick Black's case (accused of giving Kyle Rittenhouse an AR-15) has reached a resolution.

    BOTH Felonies will be dismissed and he will receive a non-criminal citation for contributing to the delinquency of a minor if the judge agrees.

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    Default Re: Kyle Rittenhouse, Kenosha, Wisconsin update thread.

    Good

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    Default Re: Kyle Rittenhouse, Kenosha, Wisconsin update thread.

    Hope he got a good judge.
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    Default Re: Kyle Rittenhouse, Kenosha, Wisconsin update thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by pens87pgh View Post
    Hope he got a good judge.
    It is the same Judge that Kyle had.

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    Default Re: Kyle Rittenhouse, Kenosha, Wisconsin update thread.

    Question: is a non-criminal citation for contributing to the delinquency of a minor a prohibiting offense for gun ownership? I believe it is on the list on Form 4473, or is that only for a criminal conviction, and how does it get documented?
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    Default Re: Kyle Rittenhouse, Kenosha, Wisconsin update thread.

    If it is adjudicated, it doesn't matter what he is sentenced to... it's what he could be sentenced to, I believe.
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    Default Re: Kyle Rittenhouse, Kenosha, Wisconsin update thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by JaySmith View Post
    BOTH Felonies will be dismissed and he will receive a non-criminal citation for contributing to the delinquency of a minor if the judge agrees.
    How is it non-criminal?

    https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/sta...tutes/948/45/1

    948.40* Contributing to the delinquency of a child.
    (1)* No person may intentionally encourage or contribute to the delinquency of a child. This subsection includes intentionally encouraging or contributing to an act by a child under the age of 10 which would be a delinquent act if committed by a child 10 years of age or older.
    (2)*No person responsible for the child's welfare may, by disregard of the welfare of the child, contribute to the delinquency of the child. This subsection includes disregard that contributes to an act by a child under the age of 10 that would be a delinquent act if committed by a child 10 years of age or older.
    (3)*Under this section, a person encourages or contributes to the delinquency of a child although the child does not actually become delinquent if the natural and probable consequences of the person's actions or failure to take action would be to cause the child to become delinquent.
    (4)*A person who violates this section is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor, except:
    (a) If death is a consequence, the person is guilty of a Class D felony; or
    (b) If the child's act which is encouraged or contributed to is a violation of a state or federal criminal law which is punishable as a felony, the person is guilty of a Class H felony.
    In Wisconsin a Class A misdemeanor is punishable by up to 9 months in jail and/or up to a $10,000 fine. AFAIK that's not a disqualification for gun rights.

    Since Kyle's actions which are the alleged basis for this contributing to the delinquency of a child conviction, resulted in two deaths, that would make this specific conviction a Class D felony, punishable in WI by up to 25 years in prison and most definitely a disqualifier for gun rights.


    EDIT: The scanned paper in the linked tweet has a checked box stating he'll be convicted of violating a Kenosha County Ordinance, §9-948-40:

    9.948.40 CONTRIBUTING TO DELINQUENCY OF A CHILD
    The provisions of Wisconsin Statutes Section 948.40 and any
    subsequent amendments are adopted except that the penalty upon
    conviction is a forfeiture not less than $100 and not to exceed
    $2,000 and this section does not apply to any conduct in
    Wisconsin Statutes Section 948.40 that the legislature has
    deemed to constitute a felony
    Kinda weird to plead to that since technically, because death was a consequence, this specific statute cannot be applied as it would be a felony under the state law to which the county statute refers.
    Last edited by General Geoff; January 8th, 2022 at 06:29 AM.
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    Default Re: Kyle Rittenhouse, Kenosha, Wisconsin update thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by General Geoff View Post
    How is it non-criminal?

    https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/sta...tutes/948/45/1



    In Wisconsin a Class A misdemeanor is punishable by up to 9 months in jail and/or up to a $10,000 fine. AFAIK that's not a disqualification for gun rights.

    Since Kyle's actions which are the alleged basis for this contributing to the delinquency of a child conviction, resulted in two deaths, that would make this specific conviction a Class D felony, punishable in WI by up to 25 years in prison and most definitely a disqualifier for gun rights.


    EDIT: The scanned paper in the linked tweet has a checked box stating he'll be convicted of violating a Kenosha County Ordinance, §9-948-40:



    Kinda weird to plead to that since technically, because death was a consequence, this specific statute cannot be applied as it would be a felony under the state law to which the county statute refers.
    As with all facets of that dumpster fire of the local "justice system" it is simply prosecutorial fuckwittery.
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    Default Re: Kyle Rittenhouse, Kenosha, Wisconsin update thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by General Geoff View Post
    . . .


    Kinda weird to plead to that since technically, because death was a consequence, this specific statute cannot be applied as it would be a felony under the state law to which the county statute refers.
    Kyle's trial determined that the deaths were not wrongful, so not felonies.

    Besides, plea deals can exist outside reality. You can burn a house down and plead to speeding, if the parties all agree.
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