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    Default Re: POF Renegade 7.62x39 upper quality control ...

    Quote Originally Posted by amstel78 View Post
    I build as well. But sometimes I just want something different. The POF had that in terms of their lowers and design. Unfortunately their CS sucks and they don't really stand behind their warranty. 100% satisfaction guaranteed? Yeah right...
    Exactly. If I didn't know better, I would think I had bought a $250 upper off one of those fucking spam email companies you get from gun.deals or buying shit on ebay.

    This is the best picture I could get of the fucked up feed ramps.

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    Default Re: POF Renegade 7.62x39 upper quality control ...

    Holy crap-ola
    I called to check my ZIP CODE!....DY-NO-MITE!!!

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    Default Re: POF Renegade 7.62x39 upper quality control ...

    Looks like they will send you a new upper!

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    Default Re: POF Renegade 7.62x39 upper quality control ...

    That's why IF I buy something vs building, I send that shit back for replacement or refund rather than trying to fix it myself.
    Once you start dicking with it and realize there's a big issue with manufacturing/etc, well, you voided the "warranty" by dicking around with it.
    I called to check my ZIP CODE!....DY-NO-MITE!!!

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    Default Re: POF Renegade 7.62x39 upper quality control ...

    Quote Originally Posted by pred View Post
    Looks like they will send you a new upper!
    I don't trust that. I've sent guns in for service a few times, sent parts for replacement, and rarely has the issue actually been resolved. My interaction with POF especially did not inspire confidence. "A 15% restocking fee MAY apply" likely meaning they're not gonna actually look at it or test it because they didn't before it left their factory and charge me 15% of what I paid for the piece of shit to take it back. I used a round file and some tapered grinding bits to fix the feed ramps tonight but the upper is a lost cause in my mind. After everything I've done with it, how many times I've had it apart in the last few weeks, my guess is that the gas block was and will continue to be the issue. I can wiggle the gas tube and when the taper pin that secures it to the block is tapped out, I can pull it out without any force. I had to use a punch and hammer to get the gas tube out of my other upper's block when I replaced it with an adjustable version. My experience with every other gas block I've worked with is that they fit tight. Presumably so all the gas you need for your gun to run doesn't leak out.

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    Default Re: POF Renegade 7.62x39 upper quality control ...

    I just bought one of their 7.62x39 barrels for less than $150 shipped. I wanted a Middy, but Faxon has been out for a while. So I figured, *what the hell* and ordered it. I*ve assembled several variations in 7.62x39 and am familiar with trouble shooting and likely culprits as well as the remedies. I can*t say I*d drop the cabbage on an upper from them, especially after what I read here. However, I*ll try out the barrel and hope it*s not as much of a PITA that you endured.

    Within the next few days I*ll grab some bolts and check the headspace with each. Hopefully I’ll be able to go from there in a timely manner and get to the range before long.

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    Default Re: POF Renegade 7.62x39 upper quality control ...

    Good thread on the gas port drilling size, I wish I saw it a week earlier, before I drilled.
    I'll have to go shooting, and test my upper now
    I talk jibberoush. pay attention.

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    Default Re: POF Renegade 7.62x39 upper quality control ...

    Quote Originally Posted by justsayno View Post
    Good thread on the gas port drilling size, I wish I saw it a week earlier, before I drilled.
    I'll have to go shooting, and test my upper now
    Shit. Well, get an adjustable gas block and set it really low if you did open it up. Hopefully you can get it running because they're really fun and way cheaper than 5.56 right now.

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