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    Default Re: Shelf stable vices

    Quote Originally Posted by EB85 View Post
    Good catch. Me no brain tonight.

    So maybe grab a bottle of Jack, a mid shelf bottle of vodka and wine that's not sold by the gallon? Maybe from a local winery to support them? And store it on the side as mentioned.
    Here ya go, people that are desperate won't care what it is: https://www.therestaurantstore.com/items/57829
    Rules are written in the stone,
    Break the rules and you get no bones,
    all you get is ridicule, laughter,
    and a trip to the house of pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    Here ya go, people that are desperate won't care what it is: https://www.therestaurantstore.com/items/57829
    A that point I could sell them some mouth wash or a stick of deodorant, too. But, again, what will an alcoholic care?

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    Default Re: Shelf stable vices

    I don't feel like Googling it, but many people have read the firsthand SHTF account by that guy from Serbia or whatever war-torn country it was.
    They got ahold of hundreds of small bottles of alcohol from a distillery and they proved to be quite valuable as a trade item - as were cigarette lighters, smokes, etc.
    I called to check my ZIP CODE!....DY-NO-MITE!!!

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    Default Re: Shelf stable vices

    Quote Originally Posted by EB85 View Post
    A that point I could sell them some mouth wash or a stick of deodorant, too. But, again, what will an alcoholic care?
    The question then is, if someone is so desperate that they'd trade for stale cigarettes or cooking sherry, would they actually have anything of value to trade for?
    Rules are written in the stone,
    Break the rules and you get no bones,
    all you get is ridicule, laughter,
    and a trip to the house of pain.

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    Default Re: Shelf stable vices

    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    I'm waiting for Berncly to chime in on his counter stable vices.
    Bolted to a 2x8!
    Must be bolted to a 2x8!

    I had sex on a counter once...
    Actually wasn't that comfortable...

    OP, if going for the sauce, get small bottles easy to carry around for trade.
    Lugging around large bottles ain't easy.
    How can you have any cookies if you don't drink your milk?

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    Default Re: Shelf stable vices

    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    The question then is, if someone is so desperate that they'd trade for stale cigarettes or cooking sherry, would they actually have anything of value to trade for?
    True but for a relatively cheap investment, it might prove worthwhile. Especially if stores are closed and they weren't able to get their most recent pack of Newports.

    Quote Originally Posted by Berncly View Post
    Bolted to a 2x8!
    Must be bolted to a 2x8!

    I had sex on a counter once...
    Actually wasn't that comfortable...

    OP, if going for the sauce, get small bottles easy to carry around for trade.
    Lugging around large bottles ain't easy.
    Good suggestion. I'll make sure to do that. Def make it easier to store, too. Maybe grab just one bigger bottle for more weight in a barter situation?

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    Default Re: Shelf stable vices

    The desperate will be sucking down hand sanitizer and Lysol. That should be in every household.
    We loaded up on smoked kippers and jarred Italian olives a while back. BBs grocery store had a run on them

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    Keep in mind that trading with strangers during a societal breakdown can lead to bigger issues later. The person you traded with could have just been there to scout and might come back with a much larger force later.
    Rules are written in the stone,
    Break the rules and you get no bones,
    all you get is ridicule, laughter,
    and a trip to the house of pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    Keep in mind that trading with strangers during a societal breakdown can lead to bigger issues later. The person you traded with could have just been there to scout and might come back with a much larger force later.
    ^^^agreed^^^

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    Default Re: Shelf stable vices

    Straight liquor (not sugared) is easy. An unopened bottle will last for decades if you keep it cool out of direct sunlight. It will not get better but not get worse. Once opened try and finish it in 6 months to a year max.

    An OK red wine >$10 will keep at least 3-4 years if left in a basement on its side. Some types will even last longer and they might even improve for a few years. More expensive wines can last much longer and get better with age. Eventually they will hit a peak then start to go down in flavor but for a good wine can keep for a decade or more.

    Commercial cigarettes will go stale in a matter of months but quality loose tobacco and cigars can last for decades if kept in a temperature controlled humidor. Some cigar aficionados use large coolers with hydrated silica gel (cat litter) to keep the humidity constant. You might have to add some water every few months and monmitor the humidity but stored this way good cigars can last decades.

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