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    Default Re: Rusty Sig Mags? how to remedy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Noah_Zark View Post
    I recommend that you use bronze or brass wool and oil, NOT steel wool. I've used 0000 steel wool with oil in the past and while it removed the rust, it also lightened the blueing to a degree.

    https://www.amazon.com/bronze-wool-0...onze+wool+0000

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    ^^^This^^^

    Also, steel wool will contribute to the rust because it too rusts. The "fibers" left behind will rust and your mags will rust again.

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    Default Re: Rusty Sig Mags? how to remedy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Noah_Zark View Post
    I recommend that you use bronze or brass wool and oil, NOT steel wool. I've used 0000 steel wool with oil in the past and while it removed the rust, it also lightened the blueing to a degree.

    https://www.amazon.com/bronze-wool-0...onze+wool+0000

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    Evapo rust. Dup the mag in and let it sit. Pull it out of solution, rinse, dry and oil.
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    Default Re: Rusty Sig Mags? how to remedy?

    How would a soaking in vinegar pan out? It's a great rust eater.
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    Default Re: Rusty Sig Mags? how to remedy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter View Post
    How would a soaking in vinegar pan out? It's a great rust eater.
    You could go 50/50 water to vinigar. But you need be careful. It could damage the metal if left in to long
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    Default Re: Rusty Sig Mags? how to remedy?

    Quote Originally Posted by normanvin View Post
    Evapo rust. Dup the mag in and let it sit. Pull it out of solution, rinse, dry and oil.
    Evapo blueing, too.

    Evaporust is extremely effective at removing corrosion, and it does not use phosphoric acid. It uses EDTA, or Ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid, a widely used organic acid that is effective at removing carbonate oxides and metallic oxides. Blueing being an oxide, Evaporust being an acid, and acids remove oxides, Evaporust strips blueing right off.

    If a person is going to refinish the blued item, then no problem. If you want the finish to remain intact as much as possible, there's bronze wool and something like Kroil.

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    Default Re: Rusty Sig Mags? how to remedy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Noah_Zark View Post
    Evapo blueing, too.

    Evaporust is extremely effective at removing corrosion, and it does not use phosphoric acid. It uses EDTA, or Ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid, a widely used organic acid that is effective at removing carbonate oxides and metallic oxides. Blueing being an oxide, Evaporust being an acid, and acids remove oxides, Evaporust strips blueing right off.

    If a person is going to refinish the blued item, then no problem. If you want the finish to remain intact as much as possible, there's bronze wool and something like Kroil.

    Noah
    Did not know that
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    Default Re: Rusty Sig Mags? how to remedy?

    Wow so many absolutely terrible answers.


    OP, please do me a solid favor and try this. Its next to free and im betting you will be quite happy.

    Disassemble your rusty mags. Spray them down with brake cleaner or something similar, then scrub in sink with dawn and a toothbrush to knock loose and remove all grease and oils.

    Now allow to air dry.
    At this point your probably getting a bit concerned eh? Thinking they are gunna rust up even more huh?
    Exactly!
    Allow them to sit overnight if you can be patient, preferably in a good area for quick surface rusting.

    Dont worry hang on, its worth it.

    Now, pull out an old burnt up stove top stock pot. Not the good one or the wife will beat you with the heavy frying pan.

    Fill 'er up a good 3 quarters or so to the top with distilled water, spark a match and swing the gas on high, you want er boilin strong!

    Now, those mags are probably looking mightly sorry about now, but dont fret! We are almost there and the proof is in the puddin!
    Drop them sombitches right into the roiling and boiling water. Give them about 20-30 minutes or when tender, you can try throwing them at the wall and seeing if they stick but i think thats probably just for pasta.

    So as you scoop them sumbitches out your gunna notice the gnomes pulled a devilish trick and swapped out the damn mags when you werent lookin!
    Those red rusty rotten ole things will come out black as then night!
    Now where you take that finish from here is up to you youngins and how much elbow grease and palm sweat you wanna put into stroking a smooth finish in your down time. Lol

    Anyhoo, this is how all old bluing was done, and rugers(or smith? Idk some revolver company lol) legendary blue.

    So what your doing is converting the red oxide to black magnetic oxide which you can then remove with a fine steel wool for the deep blues. You may need to repeat the process several times to get the deepest of blue/blacks.

    Either way, even only doing the process once will drastically halt development of red rust oxide which is the most damaging. The black oxides from a protective layer that is strengthened with oil applications. Immediately after carding to a desired finish, make sure to immediately apply oil and work it in deeply.


    If you remove the red rust before boiling, this will not work.
    Having red rust is essential as its chemically converted to black oxide which becomes the protective layer known as bluing.
    Last edited by icp4life162005; July 8th, 2020 at 10:03 PM.

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    Default Re: Rusty Sig Mags? how to remedy?

    Quote Originally Posted by icp4life162005 View Post
    Wow so many absolutely terrible answers.


    OP, please do me a solid favor and try this. Its next to free and im betting you will be quite happy.

    Disassemble your rusty mags. Spray them down with brake cleaner or something similar, then scrub in sink with dawn and a toothbrush to knock loose and remove all grease and oils.

    Now allow to air dry.
    At this point your probably getting a bit concerned eh? Thinking they are gunna rust up even more huh?
    Exactly!
    Allow them to sit overnight if you can be patient, preferably in a good area for quick surface rusting.

    Dont worry hang on, its worth it.

    Now, pull out an old burnt up stove top stock pot. Not the good one or the wife will beat you with the heavy frying pan.

    Fill 'er up a good 3 quarters or so to the top with distilled water, spark a match and swing the gas on high, you want er boilin strong!

    Now, those mags are probably looking mightly sorry about now, but dont fret! We are almost there and the proof is in the puddin!
    Drop them sombitches right into the roiling and boiling water. Give them about 20-30 minutes or when tender, you can try throwing them at the wall and seeing if they stick but i think thats probably just for pasta.

    So as you scoop them sumbitches out your gunna notice the gnomes pulled a devilish trick and swapped out the damn mags when you werent lookin!
    Those red rusty rotten ole things will come out black as then night!
    Now where you take that finish from here is up to you youngins and how much elbow grease and palm sweat you wanna put into stroking a smooth finish in your down time. Lol

    Anyhoo, this is how all old bluing was done, and rugers(or smith? Idk some revolver company lol) legendary blue.

    So what your doing is converting the red oxide to black magnetic oxide which you can then remove with a fine steel wool for the deep blues. You may need to repeat the process several times to get the deepest of blue/blacks.

    Either way, even only doing the process once will drastically halt development of red rust oxide which is the most damaging. The black oxides from a protective layer that is strengthened with oil applications. Immediately after carding to a desired finish, make sure to immediately apply oil and work it in deeply.


    If you remove the red rust before boiling, this will not work.
    Having red rust is essential as its chemically converted to black oxide which becomes the protective layer known as bluing.

    Fe2O3 => Fe3O4

    The process takes a little finesse, a little art, and maybe multiple applications, but the result when done right can be impressive.

    Noah
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