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July 8th, 2020, 05:55 PM #71
Re: Troopers shoot and kill man in Monroe County
Pretty weird math there.
One would usually weigh the costs (the very few people that die as a result of welfare checks) against the benefit (the thousands upon thousands that are helped). Not sure how you somehow introduced the thousands who were totally unaffected by a welfare check because they never received one into the equation.
I don't know what an ambulance club is. I do know anyone can, and should be able to call 911 and receive appropriate access to emergency services.
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July 8th, 2020, 06:08 PM #72
Re: Troopers shoot and kill man in Monroe County
I don't believe that "thousands and thousands" are helped every year, as a result of a "welfare check" call made by a third party. They are justified because they "help", but they actually help very few compared to the resources spent and there are many many more who might truly benefit that simply slip through the cracks in the system, and never even see a call made, so the dollars spent vs. actual needs met is a poor return. IMO.
I voluntarily pay a fixed fee to my local ambulance company, and if I need their services, I pay no further out of pocket cost.
For themselves, absolutely.
For "I haven't seen my neighbor in a week.", absolutely not.Get your "Guns Save Lives" stickers today! PM for more info.
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July 8th, 2020, 06:09 PM #73
Re: Troopers shoot and kill man in Monroe County
Rules are written in the stone,
Break the rules and you get no bones,
all you get is ridicule, laughter,
and a trip to the house of pain.
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July 8th, 2020, 06:12 PM #74
Re: Troopers shoot and kill man in Monroe County
I called to check my ZIP CODE!....DY-NO-MITE!!!
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July 8th, 2020, 06:17 PM #75
Re: Troopers shoot and kill man in Monroe County
In all likelihood they had probably already knocked, announced, attempted to have the daughter call the house, and looked into whatever windows and doors they could have before deciding to make entry. That's typically how it goes.
But... some folks just want to assume the worst for various reasons.
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July 8th, 2020, 06:18 PM #76
Re: Troopers shoot and kill man in Monroe County
I'm basing it upon what was actually posted in the facebook post. It's there, read it yourself. No point in time does it say the daughter yelled in, doesn't even say they yelled in before entering. They clearly state they made a split second decision to enter, while yelling, and probably not even able to listen for a reply, since there would have been much noise and grunting while trying to get two guys through a window.
Like I said, they took the time to write something rather detailed post, so if something else happened, why wasn't it written? The question then, is it procedure to make that split second decision and enter the home before they try to establish communication? If that's the procedure then something probably needs to be changed, since two guys almost got killed.
We'll probably never actually know what really happened. So you can assume something else happened, or you can take their own words for it.Rules are written in the stone,
Break the rules and you get no bones,
all you get is ridicule, laughter,
and a trip to the house of pain.
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July 8th, 2020, 06:19 PM #77
Re: Troopers shoot and kill man in Monroe County
Thanks for your opinion. Many people would disagree with you. One being Streaker as he mentions "officer friendly" and you want officer friendly fired for theft. And so goes the life of an LEO and the profession of policing. It's usually a no win because absolutely everyone, who has never, ever put on a badge and gun belt knows better than those of us who have, the exact way each incident should be handled and how the LEO fucked it up royally.
Every LEO is exactly like the one that gave you a ticket, yelled at you or otherwise made you so very angry. We all are evil bastards that secretly want to kill you. We hate everyone that isn't a cop which is why nearly all of us will risk life and limb to save you. Why we'll head toward the danger while you're going as fast as you can the other way. Why we'll enter burning buildings to save people because we got there before the fire company.
None of us that go into law enforcement do it because we think we can help people. We just want the opportunity to kneel on your neck until you're dead. And if we can't do that, we'll take whatever opportunity we can to shoot you, or your dog. We're all bullies filled with blood lust, just waiting for our chance. We all lie, cheat and steal while were waiting for that ultimate prize, the notch on the pistol grip.
It's fine, it goes with the territory. Everyone knows how to be a professional sports coach, an LEO or a POTUS better than those in the position. Yet, at least with being an LEO, those folks never seem willing to step up and lead from front, just bitch from the back row."A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself"
"He created the game, played the game, and lost the game.... All under his own terms, by his own doing." JW34
"Tolerance is the lube that helps slip the dildo of dysfunction into the ass of a civilized society." Plato
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July 8th, 2020, 06:20 PM #78
Re: Troopers shoot and kill man in Monroe County
It also doesn't even say they put their apparatus in park.
Would it be reasonable to assume they kept the truck in neutral?
Or is it more likely that certain things happened (like they parked their truck, they knocked on the door) and that the facebook post simply didn't contain every possible conceivable detail?
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July 8th, 2020, 06:21 PM #79
Re: Troopers shoot and kill man in Monroe County
What makes your assumption of what they did any more sound than their own words? As pointed out, they made a split second decision to enter, a split second decision that didn't need to be made. You're assuming facts not in evidence, and the only evidence we have is what's in that post.
Rules are written in the stone,
Break the rules and you get no bones,
all you get is ridicule, laughter,
and a trip to the house of pain.
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July 8th, 2020, 06:24 PM #80
Re: Troopers shoot and kill man in Monroe County
Well having been on many of these calls myself, I can draw upon actual experience of how they typically happen, and I can correlate that knowledge with the facebook post and reasonably infer that certain things very likely happened even if they weren't specifically mentioned in the post.
You, however, seem consistently hellbent on interpreting events in the worst possible light and without any actual practical experience or knowledge.
It seems to me that you simply have an axe to grind with anyone you perceive as being some kind of authority.
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