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Thread: Philly cop/NJ carry
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June 28th, 2020, 06:52 PM #1
Philly cop/NJ carry
Can an out of state cop legally carry in New Jersey?
Bob D
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June 28th, 2020, 07:07 PM #2
Re: Philly cop/NJ carry
Yes. Via LEOSA rules.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_En...ers_Safety_Act
Some rules apply. Such as a current active LEO ID, or retired ID plus annual certification
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June 28th, 2020, 07:21 PM #3
Re: Philly cop/NJ carry
Magazines limits are still in play. Hollow points are allowed though.
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June 28th, 2020, 08:04 PM #4
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June 29th, 2020, 12:39 AM #5
Re: Philly cop/NJ carry
If you are going to carry in any of the Liberal Democrat states like NJ/NY etc, make sure you know the LEOSA laws and have the correct documentation.
Keep a low profile and don't expect fair treatment by their police, history has shown them to be extremely hostile to LEOSA carry.
Best to find an experienced 2A lawyer and keep their contact information with your documentation in case of trouble.How can you have any cookies if you don't drink your milk?
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June 29th, 2020, 04:20 AM #6PickingPA Guest
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Re: Philly cop/NJ carry
YOU knowing LEOSA laws is irrelevant.
The stazi in the state, giving you a taste of steel bracelets, is the one you pray knows them, assuming they care and don't just throw the "let the judge sort it out" cop-out.Member: NJ "undocumented" Felons Club. NRA Life Member
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June 29th, 2020, 08:19 AM #8
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June 29th, 2020, 12:16 PM #9
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June 29th, 2020, 12:18 PM #10
Re: Philly cop/NJ carry
This editorial is a little sparse on confirmable details, but apparently they didn't allow LEOSA to be mentioned at the trial at all, or the LEO status of the defendant.
https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/...hat-correctly/
Dana Johnson met the definition of a qualified officer, as she was serving as a Recreational Specialist with the FBOP Detention Center in Philadelphia. A recreation specialist is someone who is tasked with offering recreational activities to the inmates, such as programs, sports, etc.
Dana is permitted as a part of her job to carry a weapon on duty when it would be in the course of her duty, such as during a prisoner transport. She has arresting authority on BOP premises, as well as off premises for crimes such as assaulting an officer and escape.
She is a law enforcement officer and therefore covered under the LEOSA act.
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I have read through hours of court transcripts, letters, and other documentation, and I can say with firm conviction that Dana Johnson has been wrongfully imprisoned.
The judge in the case clearly did not understand LEOSA, nor Dana's position and protection under the act.
Despite the judge knowing full well that Dana was a law enforcement officer, she was confused by the title of Recreational Specialist. Or at least it appeared as if she was.
Additionally, she was mislead by questioning, where the prosecution claimed that the FBOP assign employee's the "moniker" of "law enforcement officer."
The title of "law enforcement officer" is not a "moniker" that the bureau decided to assign to its employees. It's what they are under federal law. She went through her academy, she earned the title, she continued to train in order to maintain the title and position.
Which includes training on her firearm and qualifying yearly. You know, like law enforcement officers are required to do.
The state does not have the authority to interpret on its own the definition of "law enforcement officer," which is what this judge was attempting to do.
In March of 2019, Dana was fired from her job. Ironically, the law used to justify her firing was 5 USC §*7371(b) *Any law enforcement officer who is convicted of a felony shall be removed from employment as a law enforcement officer**
Dana was sentenced May 23, 2019 to five years in state prison with three-and-a-half years parole eligibility.
During the trial, the judge had ruled that LEOSA could not be mentioned because of her denying Dana's Motion to Dismiss the unlawful possession of a firearm.
Additionally, Lieutenant Michael Bridges, who took the original call when Dana was arrested, was brought in to testify. However, they limited his testimony and said that he could only comment on Dana's character, not on her law enforcement status.
Because of this incompetent judge and unfair trial, the jury wasn't even made aware that Dana was a law enforcement officer with LEOSA privileges.
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