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    Default Re: 80% gets you 10 years in Rhode Island

    Quote Originally Posted by GunLawyer001 View Post
    Any gun with a metal barrel will set off a metal detector, and any gun with a plastic barrel will blow your hand off...
    Exactly.

    ... undetectable plastic guns...



    Quote Originally Posted by alpacaheat View Post
    Serial # considerations:

    *1776
    *2A
    *FU
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    Yeah. Just engrave a SN on your gun. You're the manufacturer when you complete an 80% lower.

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    Default Re: 80% gets you 10 years in Rhode Island

    So is an 80% lower actually a " firearm" if it doesn't have a serial number? Isn't that one of the things that make it a firearm, the serial numbers?
    So what if I have a lower with no number, it's a cigarette lighter, or paper weight? Who's to say it's anything different?
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    Default Re: 80% gets you 10 years in Rhode Island

    Quote Originally Posted by ray h View Post
    So is an 80% lower actually a " firearm" if it doesn't have a serial number? Isn't that one of the things that make it a firearm, the serial numbers?
    So what if I have a lower with no number, it's a cigarette lighter, or paper weight? Who's to say it's anything different?
    No. The SN doesn't make it a firearm. Finishing it does.
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    Default Re: 80% gets you 10 years in Rhode Island

    So someone should get to work now and develop a jig to place professional quality serial numbers on lowers and make a million dollars. These laws are going to sweep across the nation next year.

    I *believe* that an LEO will run a serial# to verify if stolen or not, but not to see if it*s valid or in some registration database. The trick is to make your own numbers and in a way that doesn*t cause any questions if they are legit

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    Default Re: 80% gets you 10 years in Rhode Island

    Quote Originally Posted by esh21167 View Post
    Exactly.

    ... undetectable plastic guns...

    Yeah. Just engrave a SN on your gun. You're the manufacturer when you complete an 80% lower.
    The CA law and other bills I*ve seen around the nation, have provisions to serialize a completed lower, but only with a state approved (and registered) SN. I didn*t read the RI law yet to see if they have any way to retain existing pieces

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    Default Re: 80% gets you 10 years in Rhode Island

    Fuck 'em.

    Sometimes reasonable men are pushed to do unreasonable things.

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    Default Re: 80% gets you 10 years in Rhode Island

    Now all we need is some plastic ammo so we can sneak it past the metal detectors.
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    Default Re: 80% gets you 10 years in Rhode Island

    Quote Originally Posted by 85MikeTPI View Post
    I didn*t read the RI law yet to see if they have any way to retain existing pieces
    The "gotcha" in the RI law is that it says the serial number must be placed by a federally recognized weapons manufacturer.

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    Default Re: 80% gets you 10 years in Rhode Island

    Federal law allows one to make a gun for their own use and purposes. How would John Moses Browning ever have gotten started?

    State laws cannot supercede Federal laws. I would think this would be ripe for a challenge.

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    Default Re: 80% gets you 10 years in Rhode Island

    Quote Originally Posted by ShooterInPA1 View Post
    Federal law allows one to make a gun for their own use and purposes. How would John Moses Browning ever have gotten started?

    State laws cannot supercede Federal laws. I would think this would be ripe for a challenge.
    The NRA should already have announced that they are on it, IMO. If GOA does so I'll give 'em a few more bucks.
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