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May 1st, 2020, 03:02 AM #1Senior Member
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Anybody else catch this (CZ clone related)?
So it looks like Tanfoglio revised their pistol lineup. It's now called the "Defiant" instead of the Witness. More importantly, they are changing distributors from EAA to IFG. The relevant web page is here:
http://www.italianfirearmsgroup.com/ftitalia
Some of the models appear to be available in "small frame" and "large frame". I'm guessing those correlate roughly to CZ-75 and CZ-97 frame widths, respectively.
An important question I'm hoping someone can chime in on-- any idea if these new models accept the older EAA magazines? I ask because 1) they're still fairly easy to find new and used; and 2) I noticed the capacities have changed slightly for some of the newer models-- for example, the EAA Witnesses in 10mm were listed as a 14-round capacity, whereas the new IFG Defiants in 10mm are listed as 13-round capacity (even though the same new models in .40S&W are still listed as 14-round?).
Thanks in advance, folks. Sorry for the long absence, but I haven't been doing a lot of gun-buying or shooting for a few years now. I definitely miss it.
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May 1st, 2020, 08:30 AM #2Grand Member
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Re: Anybody else catch this (CZ clone related)?
I have been seeing some of their pistols popping up on gunbroker, not the ones in your link,those look very sharp. I can 't answer the mag question. However I can understand why they are getting away from EAA their customer service is not always the best. I will keep my eyes open for those new models so I can try one out,they are sharp looking pistols.
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May 1st, 2020, 09:00 AM #3Senior Member
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Re: Anybody else catch this (CZ clone related)?
Hi Brian,
You're the guy I was hoping to hear from! If you're interested, a retailer called Patriot Defense has a couple of models in 9mm in stock. Didn't see any other caliber in stock, hope that changes soon. Anyway, I was looking around for a Witness in 10mm and coming across them in my search was what started me down this sleep-depriving rabbit hole!
https://patriotdefense.com/tanfoglio...all-frame-ifg/
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May 1st, 2020, 09:33 AM #4Grand Member
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Re: Anybody else catch this (CZ clone related)?
thanks for the tip.
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May 1st, 2020, 09:36 AM #5
Re: Anybody else catch this (CZ clone related)?
Great, now they just need to fix their "shoots 12 inches below point of aim" problem.
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May 1st, 2020, 09:56 AM #6
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May 1st, 2020, 12:43 PM #10Grand Member
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Re: Anybody else catch this (CZ clone related)?
I have a stock2 and a shadow 2 and none were 12 inches low. Thankfully.
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