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    What?
    "What" is the Asian-Thailand regional branch of Who
    Engineers make things idiot proof! Evolution makes better idiots!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROCK-IT3 View Post
    What?
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    "What" is the Asian-Thailand regional branch of Who
    What is on second.
    --ET

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    Quote Originally Posted by jesemd View Post
    I have learned a few things through all of this...

    1. Alex Jones was more right than wrong.
    2. Whether Covid was planned or an accident, those in power are using it to consolidate power.
    3. I'm not sure what the desired outcome is, but the method being used is societal collapse.
    4. I'm not sure how to stop it, or if its even possible.
    5. Enjoy every sandwich. It may be over soon.
    Yes. I'm no doomer by any stretch but being a student of history, I can see a lot of metrics in place where if things continue the end result is not going to be good. We have a strong risk of war with China, economic data that shows we are headed for a fall here soon and an increasing totalitarian grip on western society with all sorts of societal strife and cultural degradation going on.

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    It is good to see Australians standing up for their country.

    Quote Originally Posted by bogey1 View Post
    Get a load of this.


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    He's at it again!

    Wolf Administration Requires Masking in Schools, Early Learning and Child Care Settings to Keep Students Safely in Classrooms and Delta Variant Out

    https://www.governor.pa.gov/newsroom...a-variant-out/

    The order takes effect 12:01 a.m. Tuesday, Sept. 7, 2021.

    *My office has received an outpouring of messages from parents asking the administration to protect all children by requiring masks in schools,* said Gov. Wolf. *The science is clear. The Delta variant is highly transmissible and dangerous to the unvaccinated, many of whom are children too young to receive the vaccine. Requiring masks in schools will keep our students safer and in the classroom, where we all want them to be.

    *I preferred for local school boards to make this decision. Unfortunately, an aggressive nationwide campaign is spreading misinformation about mask-wearing and pressuring and intimidating school districts to reject mask policies that will keep kids safe and in school. As we see cases among children increase in Pennsylvania and throughout the country, this is especially dangerous and challenging as we seek to keep kids in school and maintain a safe and healthy learning environment.*

    <SNIP>

    Acting Secretary Beam signed the order under her authority provided by the Disease Prevention and Control Law.

    The Order applies to everyone indoors at K-12 public schools including brick and mortar and cyber charter schools, private and parochial schools, career and technical centers (CTCs), and intermediate units (IUs). The order also applies to early learning programs and child care providers for children ages 2 and older, as recommended by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

    The order outlines the situations when a mask must be worn and includes limited exceptions to the face-covering requirement. The order does not apply to school sports or outdoor activities.

    Failure to implement or follow the Order may subject a person to penalties under the Disease Prevention and Control Law of 1955 and exposure to personal liability.

    Last week, the governor sent a letter asking Republican legislative leaders to immediately collaborate with him to pass legislation requiring mask wearing in schools and at child care facilities. Because the Republican leaders declined to act, the acting secretary is taking action to help keep students in classrooms, which is the best place for them to learn.
    You can read the rest of the BS Propaganda at the above link - I won't bother posting it here.

    So the legislature expressed the REAL WILL OF THE PEOPLE, but as usual, the Wolf Adminsitration will ignore that and press forward with Lies, Lies, Lies...


    I think way too many people don't realize that this 'saving lives thru totalitarianism' approach is going to be expanded to all kinds of other RIGHTS that will be violated in the name of protection (evenually, 2A Rights) - - - - Think of the Children! - - - - It's better to save ONE LIFE thru totalitarian control than to give people freedom which some may misuse, or use in a way that has the leftist-control crowd's disapproval.


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    Sen. Marshall to Newsmax: Studies Say Masks Don't Protect Against COVID
    By Charles Kim - 31 August 2021
    https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/m...31/id/1034554/

    Sen. Roger Marshall, R-Kan., told Newsmax that the scientific data, including 88 studies that he reviewed, does not support the idea masks are effective in warding off COVID-19 infection.

    "I would point out that most of the countries in the European Union are not using masks either," Marshall, an obstetrician, said Tuesday on 'Greg Kelly Reports.' The World Health Organization doesn't think that masks help children, and certainly people that have been vaccinated, or who already had the virus, there's no studies out there suggesting the mask would be a benefit.

    "I even reviewed all 88 articles the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is citing as science, and really of the 88, two or three said maybe it helps a little bit. Several said it did not help at all."

    Amid the surging delta variant, the CDC issued new guidance on July 27 advising even people who are fully vaccinated to wear masks in public indoor settings, or if they are at increased risk of infection.

    "Fully vaccinated people might choose to wear a mask regardless of the level of transmission, particularly if they are immunocompromised or at increased risk for severe disease from COVID-19, or if they have someone in their household who is immunocompromised, at increased risk of severe disease or not fully vaccinated," the CDC guidance said.

    As of Aug. 23, US News and World Report said that 10 U.S. states and territories mandated masks for everyone, regardless of vaccination status: the District of Columbia, Guam, Hawaii, Louisiana, Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon, Puerto Rico, the U.S. Virgin Islands and Washington state.

    California, Connecticut, Illinois and New York require masks for unvaccinated people, according to the report.

    The World Health Organization suggests that "masks should be used as part of a comprehensive strategy of measures to suppress transmission and save lives; the use of a mask alone is not sufficient to provide an adequate level of protection against COVID-19."

    Marshall said he asked Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and chief medical adviser to the president, and top experts at the CDC why they are not lifting restrictions on those that have had the virus and recovered.

    "I think the natural immunity provides better protection of then the vaccines do," Marshall said. "Our friends in Israel published a study last week that shows that natural immunity is probably 10 times better protection than the vaccines are, so natural immunity works, but it doesn't fit their narrative."

    "They want to be in control of you. That's my only guess that I can figure out. It's shocking to me because, I'm all for saving lives, and if I knew it was going to save lives, I'd be all in."
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    its about control.
    Not the virus,
    controlling the people
    There are the people who gladly wear the mask and get the jab as commanded
    then they try and force the others into doing the same
    Derrion Albert was my Hero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigandy1966 View Post
    its about control.
    Not the virus,
    controlling the people
    There are the people who gladly wear the mask and get the jab as commanded
    then they try and force the others into doing the same
    It sure as hell is, I dont GAS what our resident doctors say, its beyond obvious,
    if you cant notice it, you have something wrong with your inner workings

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigandy1966 View Post
    its about control.
    Not the virus,
    controlling the people
    There are the people who gladly wear the mask and get the jab as commanded
    then they try and force the others into doing the same
    Masks don't work according to Doucher Fauci
    Corruption is the default behavior of government officials. JPC

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    I am continuing to document the LIES & DISTORTIONS that have been propagated to CREATE THIS CORONAVIRUS PANIC!

    The title below should be - The Most Promoted Pandemic Numbers ALWAYS HAVE BEEN A HOAX!


    Our Most Reliable Pandemic Number Is Losing Meaning
    By David Zweig
    https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...eading/620062/

    A new study suggests that almost half of those hospitalized
    with COVID-19 have mild or asymptomatic cases.


    At least 12,000 Americans have already died from COVID-19 this month, as the country inches through its latest surge in cases. But another worrying statistic is often cited to depict the dangers of this moment: The number of patients hospitalized with COVID-19 in the United States right now is as high as it has been since the beginning of February. It's even worse in certain places: Some states, including Arkansas and Oregon, recently saw their COVID hospitalizations rise to higher levels than at any prior stage of the pandemic. But how much do those latter figures really tell us?

    From the start, COVID hospitalizations have served as a vital metric for tracking the risks posed by the disease. Last winter, this magazine described it as "the most reliable pandemic number," while Vox quoted the cardiologist Eric Topol as saying that it's "the best indicator of where we are." On the one hand, death counts offer finality, but they're a lagging signal and don't account for people who suffered from significant illness but survived. Case counts, on the other hand, depend on which and how many people happen to get tested. Presumably, hospitalization numbers provide a more stable and reliable gauge of the pandemic's true toll, in terms of severe disease. But a new, nationwide study of hospitalization records, released as a preprint today (and not yet formally peer reviewed), suggests that the meaning of this gauge can easily be misinterpreted*and that it has been shifting over time.

    If you want to make sense of the number of COVID hospitalizations at any given time, you need to know how sick each patient actually is. Until now, that's been almost impossible to suss out. The federal government requires hospitals to report every patient who tests positive for COVID, yet the overall tallies of COVID hospitalizations, made available on various state and federal dashboards and widely reported on by the media, do not differentiate based on severity of illness. Some patients need extensive medical intervention, such as getting intubated. Others require supplemental oxygen or administration of the steroid dexamethasone. But there are many COVID patients in the hospital with fairly mild symptoms, too, who have been admitted for further observation on account of their comorbidities, or because they reported feeling short of breath. Another portion of the patients in this tally are in the hospital for something unrelated to COVID, and discovered that they were infected only because they were tested upon admission. How many patients fall into each category has been a topic of much speculation. In August, researchers from Harvard Medical School, Tufts Medical Center, and the Veterans Affairs Healthcare System decided to find out.

    Researchers have tried to get at similar questions before. For two separate studies published in May, doctors in California read through several hundred charts of pediatric patients, one by one, to figure out why, exactly, each COVID-positive child had been admitted to the hospital. Did they need treatment for COVID, or was there some other reason for admission, like cancer treatment or a psychiatric episode, and the COVID diagnosis was merely incidental? According to the researchers, 40 to 45 percent of the hospitalizations that they examined were for patients in the latter group.

    The authors of the paper out this week took a different tack to answer a similar question, this time for adults. Instead of meticulously looking at why a few hundred patients were admitted to a pair of hospitals, they analyzed the electronic records for nearly 50,000 COVID hospital admissions at the more than 100 VA hospitals across the country. Then they checked to see whether each patient required supplemental oxygen or had a blood oxygen level below 94 percent. (The latter criterion is based on the National Institutes of Health definition of 'severe COVID.') If either of these conditions was met, the authors classified that patient as having moderate to severe disease; otherwise, the case was considered mild or asymptomatic.

    The study found that from March 2020 through early January 2021*before vaccination was widespread, and before the Delta variant had arrived*the proportion of patients with mild or asymptomatic disease was 36 percent. From mid-January through the end of June 2021, however, that number rose to 48 percent. In other words, the study suggests that roughly half of all the hospitalized patients showing up on COVID-data dashboards in 2021 may have been admitted for another reason entirely, or had only a mild presentation of disease.

    This increase was even bigger for vaccinated hospital patients, of whom 57 percent had mild or asymptomatic disease. But unvaccinated patients have also been showing up with less severe symptoms, on average, than earlier in the pandemic: The study found that 45 percent of their cases were mild or asymptomatic since January 21. According to Shira Doron, an infectious-disease physician and hospital epidemiologist at Tufts Medical Center, in Boston, and one of the study*s co-authors, the latter finding may be explained by the fact that unvaccinated patients in the vaccine era tend to be a younger cohort who are less vulnerable to COVID and may be more likely to have been infected in the past.

    Among the limitations of the study is that patients in the VA system are not representative of the U.S. population as a whole, as they include few women and no children. (Still, the new findings echo those from the two pediatric-admissions studies.) Also, like many medical centers, the VA has a policy to test every inpatient for COVID, but this is not a universal practice. Lastly, most of the data--even from the patients admitted in 2021--derive from the phase of the pandemic before Delta became widespread, and it's possible that the ratios have changed in recent months. The study did run through June 30, however, when the Delta wave was about to break, and it did not find that the proportion of patients with moderate to severe respiratory distress was trending upward at the end of the observation period.

    The idea behind the study and what it investigates is important, says Graham Snyder, the medical director of infection prevention and hospital epidemiology at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center, though he told me that it would benefit from a little more detail and nuance beyond oxygenation status. But Daniel Griffin, an infectious-disease specialist at Columbia University, told me that using other metrics for severity of illness, such as intensive-care admissions, presents different limitations. For one thing, different hospitals use different criteria for admitting patients to the ICU.

    One of the important implications of the study, these experts say, is that the introduction of vaccines strongly correlates with a greater share of COVID hospital patients having mild or asymptomatic disease. "It's underreported how well the vaccine makes your life better, how much less sick you are likely to be, and less sick even if hospitalized," Snyder said. "That*s the gem in this study."

    "People ask me, 'Why am I getting vaccinated if I just end up in the hospital anyway?'" Griffin said. "But I say, 'You'll end up leaving the hospital.'" He explained that some COVID patients are in for 'soft' hospitalizations, where they need only minimal treatment and leave relatively quickly; others may be on the antiviral drug remdesivir for five days, or with a tube down their throat. One of the values of this study, he said, is that it helps the public understand this distinction--and the fact that not all COVID hospitalizations are the same.

    But the study also demonstrates that hospitalization rates for COVID, as cited by journalists and policy makers, can be misleading, if not considered carefully. Clearly many patients right now are seriously ill. We also know that overcrowding of hospitals by COVID patients with even mild illness can have negative implications for patients in need of other care. At the same time, this study suggests that COVID hospitalization tallies can't be taken as a simple measure of the prevalence of severe or even moderate disease, because they might inflate the true numbers by a factor of two. "As we look to shift from cases to hospitalizations as a metric to drive policy and assess level of risk to a community or state or country," Doron told me, referring to decisions about school closures, business restrictions, mask requirements, and so on, "we should refine the definition of hospitalization. Those patients who are there with rather than from COVID don't belong in the metric."
    Those patients who are there with rather than from COVID don't belong in the metric.

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