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  1. #871
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    Default Re: PA Counties locked down

    Just like no one died of the flu this year. SCAM

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    Friggin' lockdowns are over, time to kill this thread!

    Buh-bye, don't let the door hit ya where God split ya!

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    Quote Originally Posted by eatmydust View Post
    Friggin' lockdowns are over, time to kill this thread!
    Buh-bye, don't let the door hit ya where God split ya!
    The Lockdowns WERE ALWAYS ABOUT CONTROL... not about the Coronavirus... Masking is still going on as a residual form of personal, individual Lockdowns...

    The point of my continued posting is to collect the evidence for the future. When the next MANUFACTURED CRISIS PANIC is produced, and there will be one, there will be a reference point from which to see the distortions of the facts. People will be able to point to specific evidence of the previous attempts to delude The People into willingly giving up their freedoms... Just like they try to convince The People to willingly give up their 2A Rights, for the good of society, for the children, to save people from suicide, etc., etc., etc.....

    You can always ignore the thread... Until you need to show the evidence...

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    ‘The people have spoken’: Pa. House votes to end governor’s COVID disaster declaration
    By Mark Scolforo - Associated Press - Updated: 8:41 p.m. on Tuesday, June 8, 2021
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...tom-wolfs-covi

    HARRISBURG, Pa. — Pennsylvania’s House of Representatives voted on party lines Tuesday to put an end to the governor’s pandemic disaster emergency declaration, less than a month after voters dramatically expanded lawmakers’ powers to control such declarations.

    The 113-90 vote sent the Republican-penned measure over to the Senate, where the GOP also holds a substantial majority. If it passes the Senate, Gov. Tom Wolf’s emergency declaration, extended since March 2020, would expire as soon as the state’s May 18 primary election results are fully certified.

    "The people have spoken," House Majority Leader Kerry Benninghoff, R-Centre, said after the vote. "That’s why it went to referendum."

    Wolf, a Democrat, has no role in signing or vetoing the resolution. Earlier Tuesday, Wolf said he supported the Republican effort to rein in his authority over pandemic mitigation efforts.

    "I support what they’re doing," Wolf said after an unrelated news conference outside the state Capitol. "We’re all trying to make this work out."

    State regulations that have been suspended or waived under the disaster declaration will go back into effect, although that process in some cases may take months. The resolution may also affect Pennsylvanians’ ability to get additional food subsidies.

    It ends Wolf’s waiver of a work-search requirement for hundreds of thousands of people who collect unemployment benefits and stops the administration’s use of emergency procurement procedures.

    Other than a masking order, all mitigation orders have already been phased out, and Wolf’s administration had outlined a schedule for resumption of job search requirements.

    Wolf’s office has said repeatedly that measures designed to limit the spread of the virus are unaffected by the constitutional amendments because they are authorized under powers given to the health secretary.

    In the state Senate, a vote was possible as early as Wednesday on a bill that would repeal the state secretary of health’s powers to order people who haven’t tested positive for a disease to obey travel restrictions, wear masks, undertake a specific hygienic practice or isolate at home.

    It also would prohibit so-called "vaccine passports" by local governments, state agencies or colleges and universities.

    Voters on May 18 put a 21-day limit on future disaster emergency declarations and gave lawmakers authority to extend them if both the House and Senate agree. The pair of constitutional amendments was put on the ballot by Republican majorities in the Legislature.

    NOW - It is just this kind of determination that we need to see from the state GOP to get a proper, FOR-THE-PEOPLE Governor elected --- And then, MAKE SURE to implement Constitutional Carry just as our state Constitution has always demanded!!!

    In fact, I would like to see another referendum to specifically target the question - "Should Pennsylvania abide by our Constitution and stop QUESTIONING the Right of every law-abiding citizen to Keep and 'bear arms in defense of themselves and the State'?


    This push for obeisance to the Government is Anti-American, whether it be related to the Coronavirus, taxes, property rights or gun rights. It is THE PEOPLE who are intended to hold the power over the Government, not the other way around!

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    What about that heroin SOE?
    Gender confusion is a mental illness

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter View Post
    What about that heroin SOE?
    Shouldn't they all be DOA now?
    -Brandon


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    Quote Originally Posted by pens87pgh View Post
    Shouldn't they all be DOA now?
    Should be but I get the feeling that The House has to take action to get rid of them. I'll have to make a call and find out.
    Gender confusion is a mental illness

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    What's the penalty if the SOE's don't end? Will the house send him a sternly written letter?
    Rules are written in the stone,
    Break the rules and you get no bones,
    all you get is ridicule, laughter,
    and a trip to the house of pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    What's the penalty if the SOE's don't end? Will the house send him a sternly written letter?
    Probably something more like this:
    --ET

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    Shelter-in-place orders didn't save lives during the pandemic, research paper concludes
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    By Tom Howell Jr. - The Washington Times - Saturday, July 3, 2021

    A little-noticed study says government orders to "shelter in place" during the COVID-19 fight did not save lives and spurred an uptick in excess deaths in some places, especially overseas.

    Researchers from the RAND Corporation and the University of Southern California studied excess mortality from all causes, the virus or otherwise, in 43 countries and the 50 U.S. states that imposed shelter-in-place, or "SIP," policies.

    In short, the orders didn't work.

    "We fail to find that SIP policies saved lives. To the contrary, we find a positive association between SIP policies and excess deaths. We find that following the implementation of SIP policies, excess mortality increases," the researchers said in a working paper for the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER).

    The increase was statistically significant in other countries in the weeks following the imposition of shelter-in-place orders. In the U.S., excess deaths rose in the weeks following the order before subsiding 20 weeks later under the orders.

    The findings undercut blue states that relied on stay-at-home methods as the treatment of choice throughout the pandemic, while providing a measure of vindication for GOP leaders who said they were harmful and that constituents could protect themselves.

    Former President Donald Trump told Americans to stay home to slow the spread in March 2020 but criticized ongoing shutdowns as counterproductive overreach throughout 2020.

    Researchers counted all excess deaths to avoid a messy debate over what constituted a COVID-19 death. They pointed to reported upticks in deaths of despair — including drug overdoses, homicides, and unintentional injuries in 2020 — and delays in diagnosing other health conditions as part of the reason the orders fell flat.

    "There's little evidence these policies saved lives and there is some evidence they led to an increase in deaths of despair," Neeraj Sood, a study author and USC professor, told The Washington Times.

    He said government moves often lagged behind choices that individuals made to mitigate their risk of catching COVID-19, blunting the anticipated impact of shelter-in-place orders.

    "People respond to the pandemic on their own. They're invested in their own self-interest and self-preservation," he said.

    Mr. Sood said he might have received criticism over the paper six months ago, but most of the reaction has been positive or constructive as the team accepts comments ahead of submission to a peer-reviewed journal.

    "I really haven't gotten any negative comments saying, like, ‘You guys are ruining public health' or ‘Why did you write this paper?'" he said. "I haven't gotten any of those, surprisingly."

    Researchers found the shelter-in-place orders had only a modest impact in restricting movement, although people in American neighborhoods with higher incomes tended to stay put more than lower-income ones, and mobility was more restricted in Europe than in U.S. states.

    Shelter-in-place orders did slash excess mortality in the island nations of Australia, Malta and New Zealand, and the U.S. state of Hawaii, which is also an island chain, the researchers found.

    It is possible that islands saw a benefit because "they were able to keep out kind of the inflow of people into the population," Mr. Sood said.

    The paper also looked at the trajectory of deaths compared with the timing of the orders, and found they remained counterproductive.

    If the orders were implemented when excess deaths were on the rise, "then the results from the event study would be biased towards finding that SIP policies lead to excess deaths," the researchers wrote. "However, we find the opposite: countries that implemented SIP policies experienced a decline in excess mortality prior to implementation compared to countries that did not implement SIP policies."

    Researchers said it is difficult to game out how the virus would have spread in the absence of the orders. But they thought it was important to take a long-term look at stay-at-home orders that were imposed in spring 2020 to keep hospitals afloat. The lockdowns became a preferred method in many places during the up-and-down fight with the coronavirus until vaccines arrived last December.

    "The implication is this is not a great policy for saving lives, and vaccinations are a greater investment," Mr. Sood said.

    The researchers said they looked real-world impact of shelter-in-place policies that occurred instead of what might have been the "ideal" policy, or if there had been better compliance with them.

    Amesh Adalja, a health expert who wasn't involved in the study, said it will take some time for the world to tease apart which policies were effective in mitigating the fallout from the pandemic.

    "That being said, in general, public health tends to favor voluntary recommendations rather than official government force, such as stay-at-home orders for the uninfected. It may be the case that in certain situations the stay-at-home orders created a paradoxical increase in risk as people gathered at homes where indoor transmission took place," said Dr. Adalja, a senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security.

    Shutdowns exacted a massive economic toll and knocked children out of in-person learning for a year or even longer, prompting soul-searching around the method and a push to improve the development and approval of therapies or diagnostics that can detect future threats.

    "No discussion of shelter in place orders is complete without realizing that the only reason that the governors thought they needed them was because of massive missteps at the federal level in January, February [and] in most of March of 2020, in which evasion, lack of preparation, botched testing and a litany of other mistakes put the country in a situation in which undetected chains of transmission were bubbling up and putting hospitals into crisis," Dr. Adalja said.

    The RAND and USC researchers said in light of their study, "continued reliance on SIP policies to slow COVID-19 transmission may not be optimal."

    Instead, the best policy response may be pharmaceutical interventions in the form of vaccinations and therapeutics when they become available, the researchers said.

    "Early evidence suggests that initial vaccination efforts have led to large reductions in COVID-19 incidence," they said. "Policy efforts to promote vaccination are thus likely to have large positive impacts."

    The Biden administration is emphasizing vaccination over shutdowns as it frets over the delta variant that is becoming dominant in the U.S. Los Angeles and other places are reimposing mask rules to protect people from the fast-moving delta variant of the virus but haven't ordered sweeping shutdowns.
    The reason lockdowns were initiated & promoted was that Dr. Fauci, the WHO & the CDC had no better advice (so promoted bad advice) and it fit perfectly into the Leftist Agenda of chaos and control. The death toll was significantly higher due to governors placing infected patients in nursing homes and totally ignoring and/or railing against any prophylactic drugs and other mitigating measures. The commentary about blame always overlooks these kinds of evidence of malfeasance.

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