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    Quote Originally Posted by john9001 View Post
    That does not mean they said the shut down was ok, it means they did not address the complaint. Be very careful who you vote for in the next election, the next governor will decide if you can work or not.
    As long as Filftydelphia and Shitsburg hold sway in the elections, We'll get Lobo and the stoner.
    Our brethren are already in the Field, why stand we here Idle?
    Si vis pacem, Para bellum
    To every man upon this earth, death cometh, soon or late

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    I know our present governor (and those like him) will never hear this clear truth with their heads you-know-where. But this kind of clarity of Rights needs to be promoted across America if it is ever to recover from the damnable liberal socialist devolution being conducted in this country.

    Unless more people believe in the True Rights protected in the Constitution, politicians who are willing to openly violate The Rights of THE PEOPLE will continue to be voted into office with promises of Peace & Safety that can never be delivered (remember that Hitler was an elected official). Unless more people wake up to the current crisis of socialist governing, vote for freedom loving public servants, and deliberately punish (impeach/recall) those public servants who violate The Rights of THE PEOPLE, this country will continue to slide into ALL OUT AUTHORITARIANISM!


    U.S. Constitution shredded by dangerous elected officials
    The Constitution does not permit government infringement upon assembly, worship, travel or commerce
    By Andrew P. Napolitano - - Wednesday, May 6, 2020
    ANALYSIS/OPINION:


    I have been taking some heat from friends and colleagues for my steadfast defense of personal liberties and my arguments that the U.S. Constitution — when interpreted in accordance with the plain meaning of its words, and informed by history — does not permit the government to infringe upon personal freedoms, no matter the emergency or pandemic. For those who agree with me, worry not. We will persevere. For those who trust the government, worry a lot. You are not in good hands.

    The purpose of the Constitution is to establish the government and to limit it. Some of the limitations are written in the Constitution itself. Most of the limitations that pertain to personal freedoms are found in the Bill of Rights — the first 10 amendments.

    These amendments were ratified to restrain the federal government from infringing upon personal liberties. Since the enactment of the 14th Amendment in 1868, and subsequent litigation, these amendments, for the most part, restrain the states as well. The courts have characterized these protected liberties as fundamental.

    So, the rights to thought, speech, press, assembly, worship, self-defense, privacy, travel, property ownership, interstate commercial activities and fair treatment from government are plainly articulated or rationally inferred in the first eight amendments. The Ninth is a catchall, which declares that the enumeration of rights in the first eight shall not mean that there are no other rights that are fundamental, and the government shall not disparage those other rights. The Tenth reflects that the states have reserved powers to themselves.

    The Ninth was especially important to its author, James Madison, because of his view that natural rights — known today as fundamental rights — are integral to each person, and they are too numerous to list. In the next century, the anti-slavery crusader Lysander Spooner would explain it thusly: “A man’s natural rights are his own, against the whole world; and any infringement of them is equally a crime, whether committed by one man, or by millions; whether committed by one man, calling himself a robber, … or by millions, calling themselves a government.”

    Natural rights collectively constitute the moral ability and sovereign authority of every human being to make personal choices — free from government interference or government permission.


    Thomas Jefferson wrote in the Declaration of Independence that government derives all its powers from the consent of the governed. And Madison understood the Ninth Amendment to declare that our personal choices are insulated from government interference so long as their exercise does not impair another’s rights.

    From this, it follows that if governments interfere with our personal choices — and we have not consented to their power to interfere — the interference is invalid, unlawful and, because our personal choices are essentially protected from governmental interference by the Bill of Rights, unconstitutional.

    Now, back to the present-day restraints during this pandemic.

    The current interferences with the exercise of rights protected by the Bill of Rights devolve around travel, assembly, interstate commercial activities and the exercise of religious beliefs. These infringements have all come from state governors who claim the power to do so, and they raise three profound constitutional issues.

    The first is: Do governors have inherent power in an emergency to craft regulations that carry the force of law? The answer is no. The Guarantee Clause of the Constitution mandates a republican (lowercase “r”) form of government in the states. That means the separation of powers into three branches, each with a distinct function that cannot constitutionally be performed by either of the other two. Since only a representative legislature can write laws that carry criminal penalties and incur the use of force, the governor of a state cannot constitutionally write laws.

    The second constitutional issue is: Can state legislatures delegate away to governors their law-making powers? Again, the answer is no because the separation of powers prevents one branch of government from ceding to another branch its core powers. The separation was crafted not to preserve the integrity of each branch but to assure the preservation of personal liberty by preventing the accumulation of too much power in any one branch.

    We are not talking about a state legislature delegating to a board of medical examiners in the executive branch the power to license physicians. We are talking about delegating away a core power — the authority to create crimes and craft punishments. Such a delegation would be an egregious violation of the Guarantee Clause.

    The third constitutional issue is: Can a state legislature enact laws that interfere with personal liberties protected by the Bill of Rights, prescribe punishments for violations of those laws and authorize governors to use force to compel compliance? Again, the answer is no because all government in America is subordinate to the natural rights articulated in the Bill of Rights and embraced in the Ninth Amendment.

    We should rejoice that there is resistance to gubernatorial ignorance and arrogance that disregards the Bill of Rights. We need resistance to tyranny in order to stay free. Power unresisted continues to grow and to corrupt. History teaches that most people prefer the illusion of safety to the cacophony of liberty. The only reason we have civil liberties today is because generations of determined minorities — starting with the revolutionaries in the 1770s — have fought for them.

    Today, we are governed by dangerous men and women.
    For they have taken away our ability to make personal choices, and they have used force to compel compliance. In doing that, they have not only violated their oaths to uphold the Bill of Rights, they also have committed the criminal acts of nullifying our rights. By using the powers of state governments to do this, they have made themselves candidates for federal criminal prosecutions when saner days return.

    • Andrew P. Napolitano, a former judge of the Superior Court of New Jersey, is a regular contributor to The Washington Times. He is the author of nine books on the U.S. Constitution.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...-elected-offi/
    (My BOLD Highlights)

    While Judge Napolitano is absolutely right, the problem is that all the Supreme Courts have been corrupted with political ambition, willing to ignore their sworn oath to uphold their Constitutions that demand protection of THE PEOPLE from the government. The courts have acquiesced to the temptation to legislate from the bench, making their own pronouncements of what should happen, rather than limiting their rulings to clear denunciations of Constitutional Violations and vigorously taking every case necessary to emphasize this protection.

    Despite the heroic efforts of the Founding Fathers to create a system of government that respects The Rights of THE PEOPLE, the quality of the moral character of citizens of America have fallen so low that in many areas more than half have voted for tyranny over freedom!

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    Looks like the stay at home order is now extended to June 4th.
    We're not going to last that long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sawgunner73 View Post
    Looks like the stay at home order is now extended to June 4th.
    We're not going to last that long.
    All of pa?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogey1 View Post
    All of pa?
    Only in Upper Darby.
    Gender confusion is a mental illness

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    Supposedly the King is making an announcement tomorrow, speculation is SWPA might go to yellow. Even crazier, the wife and I sitting here watching the news and UPMC doctors are publicly speaking out at their press conferences that we need to let healthy people out and get back to normal. Their message is the vast majority of healthy people see nothing more than a bad cold or flu. Sad part? No one will listen to these seasoned experts because it doesn't fit the narrative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter View Post
    Only in Upper Darby.
    I saw some stupid map today that made it appear it goes from Berks down to the Philly area.

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    Phugg this tyrant and his sideshow freak sec of health. Its high time business say screw you and reopen, before the proprietors lose everything. If they send their Gestapo to enforce it they too should be properly told to pound sand and if they attempt to escalate matters, the response should escalate appropriately!! Time to reclaim our rights! We are Citizens not subjects!!!

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    emporer wulf and the shim are going to hurt as many people as possible.at this point, this is intentional. and, when the window-licking, should have been hummers libtarded asshats that you have to deal with from time to time start pissing and moaning, remind them that they voted for this.
    There is no greater sorrow than to recall in misery the time when we were happy - Dante.

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    This is what happens when you don't vote....Wolf is going to ruin PA and assholes will still vote for people like him....

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