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    Default Re: PA Sheriffs use COVID as a reason to suspend LTCF processing.

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    Default Re: PA Sheriffs use COVID as a reason to suspend LTCF processing.

    Read in the free weekly paper Lycoming county is closed for LTCF.

    Also read a statement from their sheriff that a LTCF was valid for 6 months after expiration.

    Idiot.
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    Default Re: PA Sheriffs use COVID as a reason to suspend LTCF processing.

    Quote Originally Posted by PAMedic=F|A= View Post
    Read in the free weekly paper Lycoming county is closed for LTCF.

    Also read a statement from their sheriff that a LTCF was valid for 6 months after expiration.

    Idiot.
    It pisses me off these law enforcement elected officials post blatant false information that if believed would cause people to break the law and become prohibited. They should be sued.
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    Default Re: PA Sheriffs use COVID as a reason to suspend LTCF processing.

    Pa has a requirement of photo taken by some digital deal that goes in file. Well when dealing with renewals the Sheriff has a picture of you in the file that is five years old. I say use that picture again for an additional five years and get new photo next renewal. I see no chance of someone "gaming" the system as the Sheriff earlier assured it was you who was issued permit and the Sheriff would send your renewal to address on file. Naturally run a new PICS check. Easy and all renewal process can be done by mail.

    Now I agree new permit applicants do not have picture on file and may have to appear to assure they are who they say they are. But no reason not to move on renewals now. I mean only security compromise is slightly old photo that will be update next renewal.

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    Default Re: PA Sheriffs use COVID as a reason to suspend LTCF processing.

    Quote Originally Posted by jack76590 View Post
    Pa has a requirement of photo taken by some digital deal that goes in file. Well when dealing with renewals the Sheriff has a picture of you in the file that is five years old. I say use that picture again for an additional five years and get new photo next renewal. I see no chance of someone "gaming" the system as the Sheriff earlier assured it was you who was issued permit and the Sheriff would send your renewal to address on file. Naturally run a new PICS check. Easy and all renewal process can be done by mail.

    Now I agree new permit applicants do not have picture on file and may have to appear to assure they are who they say they are. But no reason not to move on renewals now. I mean only security compromise is slightly old photo that will be update next renewal.
    Why not use driver's license photo? They already are compiling a registry.
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    Default Re: PA Sheriffs use COVID as a reason to suspend LTCF processing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunsnwater View Post
    Why not use driver's license photo? They already are compiling a registry.
    Good point. Really don't need for renewal of permit as already have photo. But good option for new issue permits.

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    Default Re: PA Sheriffs use COVID as a reason to suspend LTCF processing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunsnwater View Post
    Why not use driver's license photo? They already are compiling a registry.
    Everyone doesn't have a PA Drivers License. Also I am pretty sure the vendors are different between the DL and the LTCF.

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    Default Re: PA Sheriffs use COVID as a reason to suspend LTCF processing.

    Quote Originally Posted by jack76590 View Post
    Pa has a requirement of photo taken by some digital deal that goes in file. Well when dealing with renewals the Sheriff has a picture of you in the file that is five years old. I say use that picture again for an additional five years and get new photo next renewal. I see no chance of someone "gaming" the system as the Sheriff earlier assured it was you who was issued permit and the Sheriff would send your renewal to address on file. Naturally run a new PICS check. Easy and all renewal process can be done by mail.

    Now I agree new permit applicants do not have picture on file and may have to appear to assure they are who they say they are. But no reason not to move on renewals now. I mean only security compromise is slightly old photo that will be update next renewal.
    With what you project, at some point your photo is going to be approaching a decade old. Considerable differences are likely.

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    Default Re: PA Sheriffs use COVID as a reason to suspend LTCF processing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Carson View Post
    Everyone doesn't have a PA Drivers License. Also I am pretty sure the vendors are different between the DL and the LTCF.
    Ah, the infamous venders excuse.

    This isn’t a CAD system, or a multi-banded, truncated 800 megahertz radio system trying to relay to a 100 hertz radio system, man.

    It is a photo. It stored in one of a handful of image formats, all of which are easily edited into another image format. I suspect you’re right that it is different vendors, but it isn’t really a problem at all. Just an excuse government employees would use instead of doing their jobs and making the system work.

    As to the photo requirement, you’re right, and I completely agree with you that it is discriminatory, unconstitutional, and should be ignored.
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    Default Re: PA Sheriffs use COVID as a reason to suspend LTCF processing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Carson View Post
    With what you project, at some point your photo is going to be approaching a decade old. Considerable differences are likely.
    If that is truly a problem and I really don't accept that fact, then issue a two year renewal. Or is an extra two years on the photo too long, when some States do not even have a photo on their licenses. Big point to me is that with last issuing of license they verified who you are and your address. And by mail renewal would be sent to address on license.

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