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    Default Re: HOA Restrictions

    A question. Who owns the roads? Are they still township/city roads? If so the hoa policy is illegal.

    I would also say that they violates the 13th & 14th amendments as being unarmed is a badge of slavery.



    You may want to know that they are limited in restricting the display of many flags

    https://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/L...06/0/0093..PDF


    Due to the states shitty website, I can not do any reading but you should be able to find something here

    https://www.hopb.co/pennsylvania-rea...ooperative-act

    I strongly suspect that their policy is illegal because it contradicts state law, and I suspect there is a provision in the hoa act that prevents that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAMedic=F|A= View Post
    A question. Who owns the roads? Are they still township/city roads? If so the hoa policy is illegal.
    Good thought but the roads are private too.

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    I don't know but John Moses Browning is their prophet.
    And they possess the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch

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    Concealed means concealed, nothing more need be said. Unless you live in a nudist resort there's nothing anyone has to say or do about it. Do see to it to kick any anti gun people out of the board and any other form of representative body of any kind, just for good measure.
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    I don't really buy the "Their property, their rules" line. Not all private property is created equal. Your own private home on your own land, and a shopping mall are both "private property" but they do not have the same rights. I can freely choose to not allow certain races or religions or just people I don't like the look of to enter my home. And it's tough titties for them.
    If a shopping mall tried to do that. Ooofff.
    Your "private property" is no longer truly private when you allow the public access to it.

    So what are the actual laws regarding what a HOA can and can't regulate when it comes to constitutional rights in PA? I'm pretty certain your landlord can't legally prohibit you from owning firearms in the apartment you're renting from him. I imagine it would be similar with a HOA. They can restrict you from shooting in the community. But simple keeping and bearing arms? I'm skeptical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickel Plated View Post
    I'm pretty certain your landlord can't legally prohibit you from owning firearms in the apartment you're renting from him.
    Pretty sure you're wrong on this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickel Plated View Post
    So what are the actual laws regarding what a HOA can and can't regulate when it comes to constitutional rights in PA? I'm pretty certain your landlord can't legally prohibit you from owning firearms in the apartment you're renting from him. I imagine it would be similar with a HOA. They can restrict you from shooting in the community. But simple keeping and bearing arms? I'm skeptical.
    When you buy in an HOA community you sign a legal binding contract. The state of Pa regulated the rules of HOA's. In some cases up here there are also deed restrictions. They are harder to enforce than HOA rules because if you violate a deed restriction some individual would have to take you to civil court.

    If in fact you didn't read the contract or have a lawyer....well that's on you.

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    Are the roads public access? I'm local.

    If so, I will volunteer to ride my loud motorcycle around while open carrying just to give the HOAholes the vapors. I'm anti-HOA and Ungawa will smile down on me for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gnbrotz View Post
    Pretty sure you're wrong on this one.
    If it's government-assisted housing, they can't. Private landlords can include firearm prohibitions in the lease. At least in PA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by General Geoff View Post
    If it's government-assisted housing, they can't. Private landlords can include firearm prohibitions in the lease. At least in PA.
    How about a private landlord that accepts Section 8 tenants?

    And if they're bound too, because of the relationship to the government, does that protection then extend to all other tenants, or only the Section 8 ones?
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