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    NEW YORK (AP) — Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin says she supports a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage, a break with John McCain who has said he believes states should be left to define what marriage is.

    In an interview with Christian Broadcasting Network, the Alaska governor said she had voted in 1998 for a state amendment banning same sex marriage and hoped to see a federal ban on such unions.

    "I have voted along with the vast majority of Alaskans who had the opportunity to vote to amend our Constitution defining marriage as between one man and one woman. I wish on a federal level that's where we would go. I don't support gay marriage," Palin said. She said she believed traditional marriage is the foundation for strong families.

    McCain, an Arizona senator, is supporting a ballot initiative in his state this year that would ban gay marriage. But he has consistently and forcefully opposed a federal marriage amendment, saying it would usurp states' authority on such matters.

    As governor, Palin vetoed a bill that would have denied benefits to the partners of gay state employees. In a debate with Democratic rival Joe Biden, Palin said she was "tolerant" of gays and said she supported certain legal protections for same-sex couples, like hospital visitation rights.

    Biden, meanwhile, said during an appearance Monday on "The Ellen DeGeneres Show" that if he lived in California he would vote against a ballot measure that seeks to ban gay marriage. DeGeneres, who is gay and newly wed to actress Portia de Rossi, has urged Californians to reject Proposition 8.

    "I think it's regressive," the Delaware senator said. "I think it's unfair, and so I vote 'no.'"

    Biden added that he and Barack Obama, the Democratic presidential nominee, opposed a similar initiative nationally. In the debate with Palin, Biden said he supporters partnerships rights for gays and lesbians, although he also opposes same-sex marriage.

    In the CBN interview, Palin also said she would speak out if she heard a supporter at a rally yell violent or threatening comments about Barack Obama, the Democratic presidential nominee.

    "What we have heard through some mainstream media is that folks have hollered out some atrocious and unacceptable things like 'kill him,'" Palin said, referring to a Washington Post story two weeks ago about angry supporters at a Palin rally in Florida. "If I ever were to hear that standing up there at the podium with the mike, I would call them out on that, and I would tell these people, no, that's unacceptable."

    CBN released excerpts of the interview Monday and planned to broadcast it in its entirety Tuesday.

    Palin also claimed religion and God had been "mocked" during the campaign, although she offered no evidence to support that.

    "Faith in God in general has been mocked through this campaign, and that breaks my heart and that is unfair for others who share a faith in God and choose to worship our Lord in whatever private manner that they deem fit," she said.

    Palin is a conservative Christian who was baptized and grew up attending Pentecostal churches. In September, Obama defended Palin's religious beliefs and said it would be "offensive" to portray her faith as strange or wrong.

    Palin also reaffirmed her view that Obama had been "palling around with terrorists" because of his association with Bill Ayers, a 1960s-era radical who helped found the violent Weather Underground group to protest the Vietnam war. The group was responsible for bombings of several government buildings.

    "I would say it again," she said.

    Ayers and Obama live in the same Chicago neighborhood and have served together on charity boards. Ayers also hosted a house party for Obama when he was first running for the Illinois state Senate.
    "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death! " - Patrick Henry

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    Default Re: Palin breaks with McCain on gay marriage amendment

    While I don't agree with her on this (or a lot of the hard-core religious-conservative social agenda) I do respect and admire the fact that she has been unwilling automatically become a yes-woman and hide the differences in her beliefs when they don't jibe with McCain's.

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    Default Re: Palin breaks with McCain on gay marriage amendment

    I added a line in bold to this...

    Quote Originally Posted by ThoughtCriminal View Post
    She said she believed traditional marriage is the foundation for strong families. although she offered no evidence to support that...

    Palin also claimed religion and God had been "mocked" during the campaign, although she offered no evidence to support that....
    I'm starting to think that

    although she offered no evidence to support that
    the above quote applies to a LOT of Palin's beliefs and views.
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    Default Re: Palin breaks with McCain on gay marriage amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by LorDiego01 View Post
    I added a line in bold to this...



    I'm starting to think that



    the above quote applies to a LOT of Palin's beliefs and views.
    One does not need to support their beliefs with evidence, that's why they are called beliefs. What should she have done, recited biblical passages asevidence? That would have been rejected outright.

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    Default Re: Palin breaks with McCain on gay marriage amendment

    boo...


    KEEP THE GOV'T OUT OF THE BEDROOM!

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    Default Re: Palin breaks with McCain on gay marriage amendment

    ^ ^ What Joe Said.

    She has denied rights to Gay couples by not allowing them similar tax status or health benies status.

    Which makes her a big fat hypocrite when she bitches about the Dems trying to rescind various rights (like our gun Rights) . On this - she's no different than the Gun Grabbers from CA- she thinks its Burger King and wants it Her Way Right Away.

    Hooray NeoCons

    NEED should never enter into a discussion about RIGHTS

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    Default Re: Palin breaks with McCain on gay marriage amendment

    I support gay marriage... why shouldn't they be miserable, like the rest of us?

    /plus if your partner is the same size, you automatically double your wardrobe!

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    Default Re: Palin breaks with McCain on gay marriage amendment

    Yeah right....

    Wasn't she the one getting protection from witches?

    Yeah...that's who I want as the religious authority of...well, anything.

    Sarah's witchdoctor video...NOW with a little help from Alvin and the Chipmonks!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN7hJ...eature=related

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    Default Re: Palin breaks with McCain on gay marriage amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by CarolinaGuy View Post
    Yeah right....

    Wasn't she the one getting protection from witches?

    Yeah...that's who I want as the religious authority of...well, anything.

    Sarah's witchdoctor video...NOW with a little help from Alvin and the Chipmonks!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN7hJ...eature=related
    I thought we elected Presidents, Vice Presidents, Senators, and State Reps. I didn't know we elected religious authorities. Have you condemned Rev. Wright, Father Flager, Louis Farrikhan (sp?) or any of the other nut-jobs that are propping up Mister O?

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    Default Re: Palin breaks with McCain on gay marriage amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by OneLungMcClung View Post
    ^ ^ What Joe Said.

    She has denied rights to Gay couples by not allowing them similar tax status or health benies status.

    Which makes her a big fat hypocrite when she bitches about the Dems trying to rescind various rights (like our gun Rights) . On this - she's no different than the Gun Grabbers from CA- she thinks its Burger King and wants it Her Way Right Away.

    Hooray NeoCons

    Hey knucklehead, read the 5th paragraph in the qouted article again. Apparently someone needs a reading comprehension course from an adult learning school.

    It states Gov. Palin vetoed a bill that would have DENIED rights for gays.

    And as far as keeping the gov. out of the bedroom, they aren't trying to enforce what goes on in the bedroom, they are trying to keep the gays out of the institution of marriage.

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