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  1. #11
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    Default Re: "Sanctuary Counties" in PA.

    Right now such things are not needed. Any attempts by local governments to violate state law are promptly shot down (except for Philly and Pixburgh).

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    It is interesting to see these diverging views between GOA-PA who is championing the sanctuary concept in PA and FOAC. I feel like they should be working towards the same goal. Division like this causes confusion in the ranks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustinHEMI View Post
    I feel like they should be working towards the same goal.
    That's impossible when there are ulterior motives in pushing such. Think about all the data being collected and how that might be used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SigForLife View Post
    That's impossible when there are ulterior motives in pushing such. Think about all the data being collected and how that might be used.
    Can you please elaborate? I understand if not. We, PAFOA, would like to ensure we're fully aware of what's going on and until now, didn't know there was something afoot. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SigForLife View Post
    That's impossible when there are ulterior motives in pushing such. Think about all the data being collected and how that might be used.
    There are no "ulterior motives." All of our people working the SASOs in each of our counties understand what the short and long-term goals are of the effort. And they are thrilled to be a part of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustinHEMI View Post
    Can you please elaborate? I understand if not. We, PAFOA, would like to ensure we're fully aware of what's going on and until now, didn't know there was something afoot. Thanks!
    There is nothing "afoot" other than tens of thousands of people supporting this effort across the Commonwealth. This is truly a grassroots movement that has both short and long-term goals and our volunteers understand that.

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    I respect Kim and FOAC and will continue to support them (Gun Bash in March..hint hint wink wink)

    I respect Val and the GOA and will continue to support them. (Val... I need stickers)

    I can respect both sides and arguments about SASOs.

    But in the end of the differing opinions, I support SASOs. I don't think they are enacting local gun laws, thereby violating preemption. I also support SASO's because it is getting people involved around a single issue. Fudd's should support it along with a plethora of people who own firearms but are not very vocal/active/invested.

    It is so hard to get people involved. There's so much infighting and drama. Also, certain groups (III%ers, Militias, Citizen Response Units, etc) have negative optics but the people are motivated. But the "motivated" groups turn off the not so motivated.

    Here in NW PA we will be having monthly meetings. The first half is with the more "motivated" people and the second half will be for the single issue of the constitution and our rights..... for the less motivated.

    This is why I really like the single issue concept and SASO.


    When it's said and done, our goal should be to get people involved in some way and VOTE.

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    What does the "O" stand for in SASO?
    I called to check my ZIP CODE!....DY-NO-MITE!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emptymag View Post
    What does the "O" stand for in SASO?
    Second Amendment Sanctuary Ordinance.

    PM your email and I can send a proposed/sample ordinance we sent to our county commissioners for consideration.

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    Oh, I see. I honestly wasn't aware that there was a plan to make it a "legal thing" (ordinance) - I thought this was being played the same way the leftists play the game - by simply ignoring/defying the law.

    That does complicate things.
    It's one thing to say "I hear you and your unconstitutional law, and I reject it - I will not comply".
    It's sort of hypocritical to say "YOU can't make up your own laws, but we're going to do the same thing."

    Hmmm...


    Note that I have no idea just what level of "legal standing" an "ordinance" carries with it.
    This is way above my level of understanding.
    I called to check my ZIP CODE!....DY-NO-MITE!!!

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