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    Default Re: Annual Harrisburg Rally - June 8, 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by R L Suehr View Post
    I'm already on Gunstreamer. Full 30 is invite only I believe.
    I believe I registered on Full 30 without an invite.
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    Default Re: Annual Harrisburg Rally - June 8, 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by JustinHEMI View Post
    Why can't we do all of that?

    We didn't sit around, we were there yesterday.
    Well frankly, what I have seen a great deal of here over the years is bitching about FOAC, Metcalfe, GOA, Open Carry PA and probably another couple that Iím forgetting. And, I don't think this past behavior helps our cause.

    Isnít time to just take the lead?

    Perhaps that is exactly the plan, and Iím just unaware of it.

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    Default Re: Annual Harrisburg Rally - June 8, 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by longcall911 View Post
    Well frankly, what I have seen a great deal of here over the years is bitching about FOAC, Metcalfe, GOA, Open Carry PA and probably another couple that I*m forgetting. And, I don't think this past behavior helps our cause.

    Isn*t time to just take the lead?

    Perhaps that is exactly the plan, and I*m just unaware of it.
    No one is beyond criticism. The thought that they are is part of the problem in PA.
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    Default Re: Annual Harrisburg Rally - June 8, 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by longcall911 View Post
    Well frankly, what I have seen a great deal of here over the years is bitching about FOAC, Metcalfe, GOA, Open Carry PA and probably another couple that Iím forgetting. And, I don't think this past behavior helps our cause.

    Isnít time to just take the lead?

    Perhaps that is exactly the plan, and Iím just unaware of it.
    What a crappy attitude; "You do not like what we are doing; then do it yourselves." or "It's my way or not at all.".

    Instead of having the same mindset of all the politicians/tyrants in this country.
    How about LISTENING to constituents and adjusting accordingly ?
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    Default Re: Annual Harrisburg Rally - June 8, 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by ett View Post
    What a crappy attitude; "You do not like what we are doing; then do it yourselves." or "It's my way or not at all.".

    Instead of having the same mindset of all the politicians/tyrants in this country.
    How about LISTENING to constituents and adjusting accordingly ?
    Your personal hatred for me is coloring your view of things.

    I have no desire to engage with you. Your repeated attacks border on trolling.

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    Default Re: Annual Harrisburg Rally - June 8, 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by longcall911 View Post
    Well frankly, what I have seen a great deal of here over the years is bitching about FOAC, Metcalfe, GOA, Open Carry PA and probably another couple that I*m forgetting. And, I don't think this past behavior helps our cause.

    Isn*t time to just take the lead?

    Perhaps that is exactly the plan, and I*m just unaware of it.
    Yet you have offered no plan whatsoever.
    Quote Originally Posted by longcall911 View Post
    Your personal hatred for me is coloring your view of things.

    I have no desire to engage with you. Your repeated attacks border on trolling.
    He might be badgering you but my view of your activity here today looks more like trolling than anyone else's.
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    Default Re: Annual Harrisburg Rally - June 8, 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by longcall911 View Post
    Please don*t take this the wrong way. I*m not trying to be a wise-ass. I am truly wondering where this all goes.

    So here*s my question: Are we going to hold our own 2A rally this year or next, or are we going to sit around and continue to bitch at Stolfer for decisions we don*t like, and Metcalfe for flyers we don*t like?
    honestly we should be suggesting the next date to metcalfe at this point. but if he does proceed to set his own and organize his annual rally, it must be understood he is only helping the cause. it is not "his rally" anymore. it is the people's. it will be held with or without him and it will be held regardless of any other bullshit going on. giant meteor? fuck, why NOT rally?
    to put it in better words, we are alleviating his burden having to plan it every year and assisting him by taking on much for ourselves.
    what would we do if we got the all coveted term limits? or he retires or worse? does it just end there? no.
    is he cast aside? no. will it be held without him? yes.

    the benefit to all this is we now have a year to make our own flyers. the date and speakers can be filled in as we work along with none other than metcalfe and others.
    although we should be asking "what can i do?" figuring it out and contributing... as well as "what needs done?"

    also, to note. having thought about it. the sensors for the decks are likely magnetic, in my experience they have been, not weight based. motorcycles use the decks and are substantially lighter than a car. basically if you slide your rifle around on the ground it might be enough to trigger it, i know a steel snow shovel will.
    don't ruin your rifle... but seriously they're probably magnetic.
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    Default Re: Annual Harrisburg Rally - June 8, 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by pens87pgh View Post
    There was one of our guys there that actually wore a name tag that had his real name and POOFA handle. That would be SUPER HANDY for future rally's where new guys like us come and can easily associate names with faces.

    Yes, that was me.



    Quote Originally Posted by Royinmontco View Post
    Video of the "secret back door" at the River St Parking garage.... Google maps shows a similar barricade as those at the exit.... but as you can see in my video, it wasn't lowered, and there were no signs. I make no apologies for Huey Lewis.....




    I did the same thing you did, just went where Mr. Google's map sent me, even to the point of backing up to go in the last "door" on River Street. Having parked in other garages before, I knew that I would have to have a ticket to buy my way out. I stopped at the gates you passed at 1:05 on the video and walked out to try to manually get a ticket but as you discovered that wouldn't work without a car. Then I noticed that there were two exit gates there as well as two entrance gates. One exit had yellow tape blocking it but the other didn't, and the gate had been up the whole time so I drove out the open gate and did a U-turn right back in the entrance gate and got the ticket.





    Quote Originally Posted by alpacaheat View Post
    I was thinking the tags with a pin on the back like I have to use at work conferences and trainings. I could price the lanyard type but they'd have to be breakaways for safety. People with rifle slings may not want to deal with them though.




    I'd never ask anyone to post their real names on PAFOA if they do not want to, definitely to be done by private message.

    Also, if someone only prefers to put their PAFOA name on the tag, that's fine too, but still saves everyone from asking "and who are you on the forum?" like we all do.


    I just used one of those plastic holders and made my own badge in a word processor, printed it out, folded it to fit and put it in the holder. Simple, reusable and can easily be changed/customized to work for any occasion.
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