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November 27th, 2018, 10:37 AM #11
Re: 2nd home in Pa I live in. I want purchase firearm in PA with NY Drivers license
XRingShooter is one of probably a handful of FFL's that really knows the law.
If I were you, I would private message him, asking what all that he needs to prove that you do in fact reside in PA on weekends and that you would not attempt to violate NY law. Then deal with him. I'm sure he'll want to see your property tax slip, utility bills, receipts(groceries, etc) of some sort to businesses local to your PA home, etc, etc.
A 3 hr drive to him, an hour on site, then 3 hr drive back to your PA home will be less time than what you'll probably spend on the phone or making local trips.RIP: SFN, 1861, twoeggsup, Lambo, jamesjo, JayBell, 32 Magnum, Pro2A, mrwildroot, dregan, Frenchy, Fragger, ungawa, Mtn Jack, Grapeshot, R.W.J., PennsyPlinker, Statkowski, Deanimator, roland, aubie515
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November 27th, 2018, 10:53 AM #12
Re: 2nd home in Pa I live in. I want purchase firearm in PA with NY Drivers license
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November 27th, 2018, 11:04 AM #13Junior Member
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Re: 2nd home in Pa I live in. I want purchase firearm in PA with NY Drivers license
Thanks for the responses....I sent him a message so will go straight to the source and see what can be done. I can easily provide all of my receipts or at least my CC transactions while I am there. In fact Google Maps stores all of my GPS locations on my phone so that is an easy way to tell I am in PA as well.
Last edited by jljordann922; November 27th, 2018 at 11:17 AM.
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November 27th, 2018, 12:09 PM #14
Re: 2nd home in Pa I live in. I want purchase firearm in PA with NY Drivers license
I believe this should not be a difficult if you own property in PA and have a way to show ownership such as tax bill. I would take the original bill, not a copy just to alleviate any question from a local FFL. Fill out the 4473 and use the PA address that matches your name and tax bill on the form. Your NY license is fine to show identification and proof you are you!
IMNAL but believe I am 100% correct.If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything
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November 27th, 2018, 12:59 PM #15
Re: 2nd home in Pa I live in. I want purchase firearm in PA with NY Drivers license
The ATF 4473 addresses individuals who are residents of multiple states in several places in the instructions, with the most direct being in the instructions relation to Question 18.b. (page 5 of the 4473) - https://www.atf.gov/firearms/atf-for...cord-revisions. See also, https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/what...sferee-firearm and https://www.atf.gov/file/55496/download.
Joshua Prince, Esq. - Firearms Industry Consulting Group - www.PaFirearmsLawyer.com
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November 27th, 2018, 01:17 PM #16Junior Member
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Re: 2nd home in Pa I live in. I want purchase firearm in PA with NY Drivers license
I'm going to go with the belief that it is legal and possible to do as an owner of property in PA AND that I live their for a reasonable amount of time per week. Even with a NY license. The problem lies with finding a FFL that will take the time to guide me through it and make it happen.
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November 27th, 2018, 01:33 PM #18
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November 27th, 2018, 02:29 PM #19Grand Member
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Re: 2nd home in Pa I live in. I want purchase firearm in PA with NY Drivers license
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November 27th, 2018, 02:37 PM #20
Re: 2nd home in Pa I live in. I want purchase firearm in PA with NY Drivers license
Many PA FFL's do not understand the "dual state resident" applicability to buying firearms in PA. I deal with several buyers from NY and several more from other states. It is perfectly legal for a person who owns a home and property in PA to purchase a handgun for use while living in PA, even if the handgun is "illegal" in their other state of residence. The person buying the handgun while staying in PA must be cognizant of the fact that it CANNOT leave PA UNLESS they get the ok from their other state of residence. The people I deal with all leave the "PA" guns in PA. I have one NY/PA resident that I just transferred a submachine gun to. All perfectly legal according to PA and the NFA Division of the BATFE.
What is required to buy a gun while staying in PA is to work with a PA FFL who knows the law, and is willing to work with the buyer. The PSP wants the FFL to attach a copy of the buyers real estate taxes (paid) to the 4473 and the SP4-113 so it can be proven that the are legal property owners in PA. The FFL will have to talk to a PICS operator when the BGC is being done so that the PSP knows the situation (a handgun to a person with an out of state drivers license). I have never had any problems with the PICS operators doing one of these types of transfers. All of my customers also have heir LTCF from the county where their property is located.
As for the "proving" you reside in your PA home during the time you buying the firearm, that's impossible to do. How does someone prove that - have the FFL go to the home and see the refrigerator is full and the heat is turned on????
I take the word of the buyer, why else would they be in my shop on a Saturday to pick up a firearm they ordered and I have stored for anywhere up to several months. If they are not playing by the rules he will ultimately pay the price.
It's really not a big deal, the PSP sees this regularly and doesn't bat an eye.Ron USAF Ret E-8 FFL01/SOT3 NRA Benefactor Member
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