The Gaffe Twins Strike Again

**5711-Marine** · September 23rd, 2008, 11:47 AM

Geez, I thought McCain was off to a bad start this week.

Then along came the Gaffe Twins again.

Joe Biden’s trashing his campaign’s moronic e-mail attack ad: “Terrible.”

Barack Obama’s trashing Joe Biden’s initial refusal to back the AIG bailout: He “should have waited.”

Joe Biden’s changing the campaign’s position on clean coal: He’s against it. Obama’s for it. (Vid is here.)

**adymond** · September 23rd, 2008, 12:20 PM

AHAHAHAHA! I LOVE it.

**SteveXD** · September 23rd, 2008, 12:49 PM

I posted this earlier about the "terrible" comments. I really hope this is not a Biden backout. It was rumored that Biden would make a series of gaffes and Clinton would come in after the veep debates...

**5711-Marine** · September 23rd, 2008, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by SteveXD

I posted this earlier about the "terrible" comments. I really hope this is not a Biden backout. It was rumored that Biden would make a series of gaffes and Clinton would come in after the veep debates...

Personally I believe that if this is his plan, someone will leak the fact that the Obama Campaign approached her about replacing him.

This accomplishes several goals for Hillary

1. it calls in to question the self ascribed judgment he has been running on
2. it causes him to lose the election
3. it sets her up for a 2012 run
4. the media blames the loss on race
5. she has an "I told you so" on her sexism claims strengthening her position in Dem leadership over the next 4 years refer to number 1 above.

Remember the Clintons are the masters of this type of politics.

**Roland of Gilead** · September 23rd, 2008, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by 5711-Marine

Personally I believe that if this is his plan, someone will leak the fact that the Obama Campaign approached her about replacing him.

This accomplishes several goals for Hillary

1. it calls in to question the self ascribed judgment he has been running on
2. it causes him to lose the election
3. it sets her up for a 2012 run
4. the media blames the loss on race
5. she has an "I told you so" on her sexism claims strengthening her position in Dem leadership over the next 4 years refer to number 1 above.

Remember the Clintons are the masters of this type of politics.

Yep, masters of this crap they are. How about this: It's too risky for Hilary to let McCain win, as it poses the possibility of him serving only one term and then Sarah is the nominee in 2012. (WIth a VP pick of Bobby Jindal, that's another GOP winner.) So, maybe Biden does step out, the Dems win, and Hilary banks on an accident to Obama (coutesy of a crazy-right-wing-conspiracy-wacko, of course, who is then 'neutralized' before there can be a trial, etc.)

Yep, they're masters of this.

**adymond** · September 23rd, 2008, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by Roland of Gilead

Yep, masters of this crap they are. How about this: It's too risky for Hilary to let McCain win, as it poses the possibility of him serving only one term and then Sarah is the nominee in 2012. (WIth a VP pick of Bobby Jindal, that's another GOP winner.) So, maybe Biden does step out, the Dems win, and Hilary banks on an accident to Obama (coutesy of a crazy-right-wing-conspiracy-wacko, of course, who is then 'neutralized' before there can be a trial, etc.)

Yep, they're masters of this.

I see Hildabeast staying as far away from an Obama administration as possible. Also Obama would NOT want Billy boy to be able to "advise" him while he is PotUS. Instead I see Hildabeast silently undermining the ticket and looking forward to a run off in 2012 with Palin.

I'd like to see a Sarah Palin/Sarah Steelman ticket in 2012.